Supercede or Supersede

[Fusion_power]

Which one is spelled right? Well, if you believe the dictionary, maybe both. I've seen - and used - both spellings over the years to describe that time when a colony produces a new queen to replace one that is past her prime.

There are signs a colony has queen problems. They tend to keep an abundance of drones even when other colonies are reducing. They may even raise drones at a time when other colonies only have brood. The queen will usually be laying fewer eggs and brood area in the colony will be reduced compared to other colonies.

I found one colony in the early stages of supercedure a few weeks ago. My solution was to remove the old queen and give them a mature queen cell. That colony now has a new laying queen and voila, the abundance of drones is now gone.

What were the signs? The colony had an abundance of drones and an abundance of sealed drone brood plus a very reduced amount of worker brood as compared to other colonies. The queen was moving slower than normal and was laying an egg about every 5 minutes. I've learned through years of observation that combination is a sure sign of a colony that needs immediate attention. I also had mature queen cells ready which made the decision very easy.

 

[Madge]

Which one is spelled right? Well, if you believe the dictionary, maybe both. ...

Which dictionary did you use? It's 'supersedure': to sit above; superior to ...

 

[BeeJayBee]

Which one is spelled right?

UK-English is supersede

OED http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/supersede

Take the place of (a person or thing previously in authority or use); supplant:​

 

[Madge]

UK-English is supersede

OED http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/supersede

Take the place of (a person or thing previously in authority or use); supplant:​

Not just in UK English. Supersede spelt with a 'c' wrong - also in American English.

 

[Finman]

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From etymology dictionary you may see, that word means "replace" in this issue.

But usual old meaning is " sit on top".
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[Fusion_power]

From Random House dictionary: [soo-per-seed] verb (used with object), superceded, superceding.

Same dictionary: [soo-per-seed] verb (used with object), superseded, superseding.

Before you go too far with it, I spell it "supersedure" but thought I would bring the alternate up here to see what is typically used on the other side of the pond.

 

[Finman]

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Use what ever. It does not mix anything.

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[jenkinsbrynmair]

From the Oxford dictionary (the definitive guide to spelling English words)

VERB

[WITH OBJECT]
Take the place of (a person or thing previously in authority or use); supplant:
the older models have now been superseded
from Old French superseder, from Latin supersedere 'be superior to', from super- 'above' + sedere 'sit'. The current sense dates from the mid 17th century.

From the Grammarist:

The official spelling is supersede. This verb means to replace or substitute something for something else. It is a transitive verb that is used with an object.

Supersede comes from French, and then Lain before that. In both languages it is spelled with an s. However, the misspelling supercede has been recorded for multiple centuries. Because of the pervasive use of this error, supercede is listed in most dictionaries. These entries simply refer the user to the correct spelling. It is interesting to note that the error has never been adopted as an accepted alternative, which is the case with some other widespread errors.

The noun form is supersession.

So supercede is basically (and definitely) Wrong

 

[Madge]

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So supercede is basically (and definitely) Wrong

Yup. Here as well.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Down yer it's zuperzede.

 

[busybee53]

Down yer it's zuperzede.

 

[Finman]

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With human species it is called divorge.
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Clearest sign about it is that chemicals disapear from pathroom.

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[REDWOOD]

Spell it any way you want I'll still know what you mean


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[BeeJayBee]

From Random House dictionary: [soo-per-seed] verb (used with object), superceded, superceding.

Same dictionary: [soo-per-seed] verb (used with object), superseded, superseding.

The Random House dictionary is based in the American-English Webster (now = Merriam Webster) dictionary that originally used some archaic, non-standardised, spellings. He intended it to be more phonetic than any of the UK-based dictionaries hence 'color' and 'program'.

 

[Madge]

...hence 'color' and 'program'.

'Color' and 'program' are correct American spellings; 'supercede' is not. If included, it should have mentioned that it's the wrong spelling of 'supersede'.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

'Color' and 'program' are correct American spellings.

a matter of opinion

 

[enrico]

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With human species it is called divorge.
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Clearest sign about it is that chemicals disapear from pathroom.

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Is that spelt divorge or divorce!!

 

[Martin Bee]

Which one is spelled right? Well, if you believe the dictionary, maybe both. I've seen - and used - both spellings over the years to describe that time when a colony produces a new queen to replace one that is past her prime.

I tried this out on my wife, who has nothing to do with bees, and she immediately spelled it with a "c" which as she is a retired school teacher surprised me. But she pointed out proceed, procedure, and precede are all spelled with "c". But she said things to do with bees are not of any interest to her.

 

[Finman]

Is that spelt divorge or divorce!!

Yes. When I have been in England 6 times, you out there have no rules at all. From foreigners you can demand correct spelling, but you do yourself do not use it.

In Birminghan people spoke like ball of sheep wool in the mouth. In London style can be what ever.

Nais daj todai they say.
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[thenovice]

If I remember my high school Latin well, should be with an s as from super sedere... should translate to something like to sit on top, or over something.