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To cut to chase: I am having difficulty in getting some Nucs to take down syrup. I am using Maizey and Paynes feeders. The bees simply appear to die on contact with the liquid and the remainder standoff. At first, I thought it was a commercial additive in the syrup, but a similar pattern applies to thymolated syrup. Example: Fresh feeder and within two hours a simple line of dead bees floating at the contact line and some few others standing off [not a crush]. So, my question: Is it appropriate to simply add Fondant in place of syrup at this time? I would normally add fondant to lighter hives in spring. Any suggestions/observations welcome.
 

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Sounds very odd, I have nucs draining these type of feeders. I use invert with and without thymol, all colonies have had both and no dead bees.
 

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some colonies just seem to have the lemming syndrome, have had a handful or so of them this year who just keep getting piled in.
 

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Even the ones in the cup float back up with mine. :)
 

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Even the ones in the cup float back up with mine. :)
Yes same here. I use the 2 litre rapid feeders and fill them as soon as they are empty. I can fill them as fast as possible even with the cup full of bees. I just twiddle the cup and all the wet bees float to the top.
 

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Noticed a cup popping issue with two feeders from maisemore, I was scooping bees out of the bowl last visit. Piece of slate and a stone hold them in place.
 

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“very Odd” … absolutely! All hives were initially reluctant post Apiguard treatment to feed but got into stride and are now draining syrup down. However, Poly Nuc’s in the main, remain stubbornly reluctant with significant mortality rate at syrup line and the two in question now dangerously low. I did try a contact feeder (in case temperature issue) to no avail. Fondant appears to be final throw of dice.

PS: Thank you for comments re “Cups”. Have them on full Colonies and earlier Forum tips on “wiggling/irritating” cups, have resulted in very few ‘floaters’.

PSS: Thanks for advice re Fondant and will apply tomorrow.

PSSS: Yes, we did have a few “Lemming” or Kamikaze rushes which settled … but the Nucs in question appears to be sip and die. … or perhaps high divers (into oblivion).
 

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Ice on the car windscreen here yesterday morning.
Maybe the cold syrup is chilling them past the point of no return.
 

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Ice on the car windscreen here yesterday morning.
Maybe the cold syrup is chilling them past the point of no return.
I agree, had this problem with some nucs in the past.
 

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