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I have 1 of my hives on double brood, whats the best way to treat this with the oxalic acid, lifted the lid today just for a very quick check and they seem to be between the boxes.
 

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I had this scenario. I decided- rather than pull apart the boxes and possible damage to the colony I trickled about 7 mls between the frames through the top box and hope to cover the bees below. bees fine and about 150 varroa drop (with pre OA drop being about 5 in 3 days). So I think I did the right thing.
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.heather, from where hell your have got that skenario???

you just drible 50 ml into the hive.
If there are 10 frames you give 5 ml per semen.

40 ml to one box and 50 ml to two box.

i have never seen any pre drops in 3 days?
 
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Double brood does not necessarily mean more bees. They would be on no more seams than if they were on a single brood or just in one box.

Defra recommend treatment if varroa drop is more than 0.5 per day in the winter - well they actually say colony collapse is very likelybefore the end of the season if the average daily mite drop for a normal colony exceeds the figure quoted.

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looks like finman has bee sowing his wild oats again :svengo:.
Sorry couldn't resist :).

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I know what you mean Victor.
Double endendre is a wonderful thing. Even when really a schoolboy howler. How come the French got to name it? :)
 

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Finman- back off with your semen!
7mls per frame instead of 5mls per frame for single brood. I was just allowing an extra 2mls wastage in the emptier upper frames.
 

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Finman- back off with your semen!
7mls per frame instead of 5mls per frame for single brood. I was just allowing an extra 2mls wastage in the emptier upper frames.
European union varroa group researched 10 years trickling and it has never gived 7 ml advice per semen.
It was finnish researcher Seppo Korpela who invented that per semen thing and dead rate become better.

if . Defra has said something, they have understood wrong 2 brood case.
 

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looks like finman has bee sowing his wild oats again :svengo:.
Sorry couldn't resist :).

John Wilkinson
dear mr. Wilkinson, i have teached british beekeepers several years to read European Union varroa group's original results but you have a great ability to make your own ideas which are based on nothing. Ireland is totally out in their advices.
. John, you and your oats.
 

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It might be hard to swallow but what will you do with the extra semen?:puke:
most of my colonies winter in 2 brood hives and just now it has been -20 C for whole week.

there are no extra semen in hives. They have rigid walls and boxes are full of bees.

original advice is max 50 ml per colony .
i need not swallow anything because i have learned notthing from brittish varroa handling.
 
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Finman

They are joking because you mis-spelt a word.

The word you should be using is seam.

You used the word semen which has an entirely different meaning!
 

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PeterS,

I sent him a pm just a few minutes before you posted. Urine extraction comes to mind but far too subtle in this particular instance.

Regards, RAB
 

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You come so easily glad. Nice!

But I really recommend that you make your transalation better from English to English.

I toggle my sentences into mobile and I do not bother to correct my words.

Happy Christmas!

 
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I think that Google Translate does a better job.
I used to use Babel Fish, but have found that over the last few years that Google has improved it's contextual accuracy enormously. :)

WaxmanSmokerboy reccomends it highly also and says Merry Christmas Heather. (Not going to Madrid for Christmas).
 

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te aari ei ehtiminen Joulu suudelma= sounds like : your are about acre and my mouth will dry upp for kissing before Christmas
 
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b......s - :toetap05: It is 'you are not getting Christmas kiss'- admit it - all translation sites cannot be wrong...

and surely that was not your best photo Finman ? - you -without the bees??
 
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