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Right first - take a deep breath and remember I take morphine on a regular basis and can't think properly...

I have a 5 litre rapid feeder...what proportion of sugar to water do I need to fill it? 1:1 was easy but brain has frozen and need to feed tomorrow...

Thankyou to all those who a)read b) understand c) answer...

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Theres a point...is it one bag per one litre? I'm sure I saw an old beekeeping video saying this. I will be interested to see the answer.

Oh, and queens, I totally understand lol ;)
 

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One 1kg bag to half a litre is the mix for this time of year :)
This = 2 to 1 which is the Autumn/Winter strength.

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If you are winter feeding then the proportions are 2Kg of sugar in 1 litre of water. I should think that 8Kg dissolved in 4litres of water should fill your 5 litre feeder.
 

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If you want to feed 2:1 then it would be 2 (1kg) bags to 1 ltr of water - so for 5 ltrs it will be 10 bags. This will make up more than 5 ltr volume so will be more than you need to fill feeder. You can save extra and add later especially if you add thymol. If you don't want any left over 8 bags to 4 ltrs of water will make less than 5 ltrs but should nearly fill it. Hope this helps

sorry to post same info as erichalfbee - much slower typer!
 
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Warm the water if you want it to dissolve easily. It will dissolve in cold water but it takes ages.
 

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not saying anymore in case SWMBO reads this... ;o)
but dont use boiling water as it raises the HMF levels....
 

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Large piece of a thread here last week was on about a 2 litre coke bottle not quite holding 3 kg of syrup (volume of 2 1/4 litre!) So 4 kg sugar should near-fill you feeder with about half a litre to spare.

Pro rata it if you want to fill it brim full. Assuming 2:1 here.

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Large piece of a thread here last week was on about a 2 litre coke bottle not quite holding 3 kg of syrup (volume of 2 1/4 litre!) So 4 kg sugar should near-fill you feeder with about half a litre to spare.

Pro rata it if you want to fill it brim full. Assuming 2:1 here.

Regards, RAB
agree, it was me who posted the error,senior moment,,,,,:eek: trying to get a quart into a pint pot,
 

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but dont use boiling water as it raises the HMF levels....
If you add that amount of sugar to boiling water off the heat then the temperature drops rapidly on adding...that equates to zero risk. And no need to wait before trundling over the lane here to the hives. HMF is a continued boiling issue? So much confusion on sugar science :(.
 

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HMF is a continued boiling issue? So much confusion on sugar science :(.
I AM confused by this. :confused::confused:
How on earth does one make fondant without boiling?
I was going to make my own but got some Neopoll from Rooftops instead.

Hell, I'm sure this has been covered umpteen times so I'll just :leaving:
 

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Don't worry, some are easily confused into thinking 12 or 15kg of sugar syrup will (almost) go into a 5 litre feeder!

Maybe the larger manufacturers save on energy by applying a negative pressure to the dissolution vats and, while not preventing boiling, can do the necessary water reduction quickly and at a much reduced temperature!

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Maybe the larger manufacturers save on energy by applying a negative pressure to the dissolution vats and, while not preventing boiling, can do the necessary water reduction quickly and at a much reduced temperature!

RAB
Ah, makes sense. Perhaps I could make my own fondant up a mountain somewhere :biggrinjester:
 

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Ok adding to confusion earlier post mentioned winter feeding syrup??? didnt think you were ment to do this? I was told if I needed to feed in winter then use bakers fondant not liquid as it can give the bees disentry?
 

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I meant autumn feeding; feeding FOR the winter.
 

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I have just made up 1Kg sugar in 1 litre of water and the final volume was just about 1600ml so 3kg of sugar would give you 4.8 litres, just short of your 5 litres.
 

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I have just made up 1Kg sugar in 1 litre of water and the final volume was just about 1600ml so 3kg of sugar would give you 4.8 litres, just short of your 5 litres.
i'm going to make a note of that :D
 

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just short of your 5 litres.

Yes for 1:1, but I thought the original post was for likely for 2:1?:)

Now we could all be confused. Some replies would have made enough for 3 fillings and some spare!

Regards, RAB
 
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Thanks all - made up the feed today, and ended just a bit short...but happy bees - and I didn't have to do it individually with a teaspoon!!
 

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Oh heck
I use boiling water, then keep it heating for a minute or two while it disolves then stick it in a sink full of cold water to cool it faster.
I am also doing 2 kg sugar to 1 litre of water ( I thought that was the autumn ratio)
Is it really bad for them?
Clare
 
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