i must admit your words ring true poly hive but where i want to play and it is play, i have several nucs and two full colonys of dark european bees, old english blacks to say. what i want to try and do is breed some good quality bee queens so i can continue using them any may be just maybe there could be the chance of improving there productivity from average to above average, nowhere near these super duper bees admitily, but i like the older type of bee it suits my style of bee keeping, so do by the way wbc hives 12 by 14 nationals and NO OIL SEED RAPE, sad but true.
After 20 odd years pottering about with bees i have come to know exactly what style of bee and beekeeping i want to follow and it is a more knowledge seeking sort rather than commercial, but the ideas behind the two threads i have started are to help other s who are thinking about making a little more effort and may be a little more money, and the other one is because i an fasinated by these new super duper bees everyone is going on about in the forum and how they cant be restrained on a simple box but the need two or finmans three.
As a practicaly minded person it seems to me that one box is far better than two and three, and stop going on about supers i was just concerned that the brood box was becoming to small and would the design of a larger brood box and its requirements on how to do it.
I was exspecting an arguement on cell numbers with people going for 150,000 some for 200,000,I am sure finman would find a link for 500,000 cells, but from the cell count we could then say would we want 10 ,15 or 20 frames and these figures would lead us onto the diamentions so we could then build one at the bee shed and we could put forward ideas of manipulations and if i build it with removable panels we can have a web based disscussion with a practical out comes.
I was willing to buy and build every thing and then to allow everyone to have there say and to then perform the act or task required by the majority and then we can disscuss why so and so happened when we though the opposite would work.
i seem to find with many beeks over the whole world over there are those that still think the world is flat and why change anything and then there are those who have just walked back from the other side of the world with ideas and knowledge but are not quite sure what they know and what use it is or why the bees do what they do, i find at times this is not the forum it could be but a forum of down putters or cowards
now that i have started world war three and a half iam off up the bee shed ttfn