Ne'then !

[victor meldrew]

Another pearl of wisdom?
VM

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[Norfolk]

Who is this guy ?

I must remember his advice on what to ask the seller next time I'm at the checkout at Tescos

 

[victor meldrew]

Just another do Gooder! getting his name in print ! And pic of course .
Not much corn syrup fed where he hails from but don't let facts get in the way of a good story
Yield drops source of info aren't realistic given the sparse information return to the quoted .
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[VEG]

natural beekeeping trust

They have a lot to learn

 

[Hivemaker.]

.........http://naturalbeekeepingtrust.org/content/natural-beekeeper-jonathan-powell-his-sun-hive

 

[Luminos]

I've got one of those.
It's called a skep.

 

[victor meldrew]

Look out Pete he could just convert you!
He's from Frome
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[Hivemaker.]

He's from Frome

A lowlander.

 

[victor meldrew]

Ill loan him some crampons
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[madasafish]

"There are beekeepers who treat their bees with respect and care but their numbers are very small"

I take it that Mr Powell has done a full survey of all UK beekeepers and can give us a blow by blow account of which beekeepers don't treat their bees with respect.

Otherwise he's talking bull excrement.

He hasn't done a survey I hear you think.. well ...why am I not surprised?
He appears to be another self proclaimed expert who knows exactly what everyone else is doing wrong but are perfect themselves. Uriah Heep springs to mind but I am not sure why ::

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Ill loan him some crampons
Vm

Now then Victor - you know what happened last time someone mentioned lady things on here!

 

[victor meldrew]

I don't recall mentioning hammocks
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[derekm]

I dont agree with the qualification for term "natural" being a husbandry practice of the mid 19th century and earlier. These are practices of man and should subject to the same scientific and ethical scrutiny as later practices.
A bee keeping practice being an early practice is not a guarantee of benefit or benign.

See lead acetate used as sweetner
arsenic as cosmetic and pigment
mercury as medicine
Laudenum as tonic.

The term "natural" should be reserved to non-manmade artifacts or similarity to non-manmade artifacts. Thus for a hive to be "natural" it should have some of the quantifiable charateristics of a wild bee nest.

 

[Norfolk]

I dont agree with the qualification for term "natural" being a husbandry practice of the mid 19th century and earlier.......

I wonder if you asked the bees of today wether they preferred the old way or the modern way, what they would say. Let's face it the old ways led to the death of a lot of bees.

The real "natural way" is to leave them alone in the first place.

 

[victor meldrew]

The real "natural way" is to leave them alone in the first place.

Starvation is natural in times of dearth!
In these circumstances I feed mine, ne'er mind ,"leave them alone"
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[Norfolk]

Starvation is natural in times of dearth!
In these circumstances I feed mine, ne'er mind ,"leave them alone"
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Agreed, I am not advocating "leaving them alone" I was commenting on what is natural that was all. Natuaral is to leave them alone, is what I meant, in a purist way any kind of bee "keeping" is un-natural. (imho).

 

[For want of a better word]

Corn syrup.......?

Drop a dress size.... do not eat anything with corn syrup in it... it turns straight to fat!

I have been a 14 for years ( but that is another story!)

 

[victor meldrew]

Agreed, I am not advocating "leaving them alone" I was commenting on what is natural that was all. Natuaral is to leave them alone, is what I meant, in a purist way any kind of bee "keeping" is un-natural. (imho).

But is natural .?
Ants farm both aphids and algae !
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[jenkinsbrynmair]

in a purist way any kind of bee "keeping" is un-natural. (imho).

Put bees into a container whether it's straw, wood , poly or plastic and fiddle around with then (even only to lightly dust them with icing sugar is not natural beekeeping.

I have been a 14 for years (

Yes, but we're talking dress sizes here not IQ's or reading ages

 

[VEG]

there is nowt natural about beekeeping end of, no matter how you word it.