Nadiring a super

[Karsal]

Could someone explain the reason why some beekeepers now nadir a full super under the brood box over winter.
Is it " Fasionable " or just another complication to baffle and bemuse worried new beeks.
If warm air rises within the hive surely the full super above will keep warm and the honey will be easier to consume by the bees. The bees will have the warmth and not have to move down into a colder area to get at their stores.
Nadiring seems another idea dreamt up like matchsticks and snake oil to me.
Beekeepers seem to cosset their colonies overwinter with insulation on top and around the hive then move their stores below the brood box and leave a great big OMF floor. Something that bemuses me!

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Could someone explain the reason why some beekeepers now nadir a full super under the brood box over winter.
Is it " Fasionable " or just another complication to baffle and bemuse worried new beeks.
If warm air rises within the hive surely the full super above will keep warm and the honey will be easier to consume by the bees. The bees will have the warmth and not have to move down into a colder area to get at their stores.
Nadiring seems another idea dreamt up like matchsticks and snake oil to me.
Beekeepers seem to cosset their colonies overwinter with insulation on top and around the hive then move their stores below the brood box and leave a great big OMF floor. Something that bemuses me!

For someone whose details show a join date of 2013 don't you read the threads in the forum?
One more time, if you don't nadir the super (remove the queen excluder) there is every chance of the queen laying in the super when spring expansion starts.
Not the end of the world but why create a problem when it's so easily avoided?

 

[Swarm]

Sounds like crossed wires. Full supers are left where bees want their stores, above. Partially capped frames are nadired so the bees can transfer the stores to where they want it, above.

 

[enrico]

To clarify. Bees will store from the top down and eat from the bottom up,
They will start spring laying from the top down. If you put stores under and there is room above they will move them up, if you don't want brood in the bottom box at the end of the winter then that is where it goes, underneath. It just depends on wether you have full box's plenty of stores or are trying to manipulate into one box from several.
It just needs a bit of thinking about before diving in and moving the box's round.
To keep it simple, remove everything but the brood box and feed until they have enough weight.
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[Finman]

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When bees transfer syrup from feeder to combs and cap the food, they consume 24% from sugar energy.

When bees tear ready food stores and move it to another place, the whole operation is pure waste.

Why don't you keep it there, where it was.

When bees start brood rearing in spring in super, you can swap the boxes later.