Multiple capped QC help plz

[Murox]

Nope, check out Snelgrove method II. Queen, brood and queen cells all go in same top box. .....

Oh no! even more confusions.

 

[JonnyPicklechin]

Further to above (and to avoid embarrasment)
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..realising that two evential queens separated by a QE will need to be dealt with....

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[Hivemaker.]

Understand the Demaree is normally enacted before the key swarm signs of occupied QCs...But if you used it for AS ie when there are occupied QCs, do you knock down all but 1 (or 2) cells and leave in the upper "mostly brood box" and not the lower "hardly brood but with Queen" box?

I am hoping this sentence is correct as the logic is starting to dawn on this novice with more clarity if it so....

When doing a Demaree they will usually build some emergency cells in the top box anyway, you would normally destroy all of them and any empty combs from the top box can be put into the bottom box and replaced with more combs of brood to the top box, thus always giving the queen plenty of laying space in the bottom box and cutting congestion by keeping many of the young bees up top, doing what they do best.

 

[For want of a better word]

Ok so to those who have read this thread from beginning. Could i have when i saw how full my colony was instead of waiting for equipment to arrive split them in a vertical demaree style with qe and supers in between to delay the production of swarm cells? I dont really want another new queen as mine is not even a year old yet and so calm. I thought of now they are split to stack them demaree style with original q and flyers on bottom with frame of eggs frame stores and rest new foundation. Then qe. Then supers. Then brood with nurse bees on top who would be potentially without qc as i would knock them back. Id rather get rod of capped qc before they emerge so i dont run risk of vq swarming or have to cull new queens as i want to keep my original queen. Is there a downside to this idea that im ignorant of. If there is i will allow them to raise the new queen and give away when i recombine.. thank you for your responses im just trying to learn whats best especially as im away in may for 16 days on my honeymoon.

An idea!

Get a nuc box
Find your queen and put her in the nuc box with a frame of brood and a frame of stores & pollen plus some undrawn foundation, make up the space with some fat dummies, shake in some more bees and set a few meters away from the main hives.... put the queen excluder on and feed.
Before you set of on your honeymoon,,, look in the nuc, if there are any queen cells break them down... add more frames.... she should still be there when you get back!

As for the other main colony.... split it in two and let them do what they want.

Later you can recombine with your favorite queen.

Chons da

 

[Bakerbee]

Very interesting thankyou everyone. I understand the basic principles of separating queen and brood and allowing space but am still learning the subtle differences to employ at catching swarming in each of its preparation stages.

 

[Amari]

Ok so to those who have read this thread from beginning. Could i have when i saw how full my colony was instead of waiting for equipment to arrive split them in a vertical demaree style with qe and supers in between to delay the production of swarm cells? I dont really want another new queen as mine is not even a year old yet and so calm. I thought of now they are split to stack them demaree style with original q and flyers on bottom with frame of eggs frame stores and rest new foundation. Then qe. Then supers. Then brood with nurse bees on top who would be potentially without qc as i would knock them back. Id rather get rod of capped qc before they emerge so i dont run risk of vq swarming or have to cull new queens as i want to keep my original queen. Is there a downside to this idea that im ignorant of. If there is i will allow them to raise the new queen and give away when i recombine.. thank you for your responses im just trying to learn whats best especially as im away in may for 16 days on my honeymoon.

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