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Marc_W

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Hi all,

I've recently been thinking of getting myself a hive and some bees along with a bit of experience with a local bee keeper. I've just missed the 2 day course at Myerscough which is just my luck!

I've been doing a bit of reading on hive life cycles etc which, I'm sure there is a lot more to understand but it was a good starting point for me.

What I want to know is what type of hive should I be looking for? I'm planning on either a farmers field or a flat roof top but I've seen a lot of hives with stands, some without?? Confused :sorry:

Thanks
 
I have been reading and researching this hobby hobby for the past 3yr's.. some has sunk in and a lot has gone into the wood work.. i'm sure it may resurface from my grey matter but time will tell..

I have finally bit the bullet and got my first colony so i have around 1% out of 100% idea what i am doing which is very small percentage.. personally i need hand's on experience for it to sink in and stay there..

From what you ask i would say Research a lot more.. because when you get your first hive full of bee's they become your babies .. and the last thing you want to do is loose them..
 
My aim is to have a hive by spring 2016. I think thats a good starting point?

My Bee Keeping Association runs free, to paid up members, theory courses during the winter months and we have a training apiary where new beekeepers learn the hands on part from May to August. I'd suggest you get in touch with your local association and ask if they offer similar. It would be good if you could observe and maybe partake in some practical work in a supervised apiary environment before getting into the theory as it gives you an insight into the things being taught on the theory course.
We also breed colonies in National hives/nucs for the new beginners to purchase on a first come first served order basis and keep at the association apiary for the first season. Thus when you get your own bees you have some knowledge to work on and are mentored as well.
It's an interesting hobby with an almost vertical learning curve. Just when you think you are reaching a plateau the path ahead gets steeper :)

The National is a popular hive which is used extensively in the UK. If you adopt this standard you have plenty of beekeepers who can help you out with frames, foundation and other kit. The stand is separate so you have the option of what type to use. In my apiary I use breeze blocks for stability, strength and durability. Mesh floors and inspection boards (only put into position to check mite drop, not kept permanently fitted) are the norm, standard deep brood box (or for many the jumbo 14 x 12 brood box) sits on the floor assembly, a queen excluder on top of that and honey crop supers above the queen excluder. A no-hole crown board on the top of the supers and finally a weatherproof roof, deep enough to accommodate a rapid feeder or insulation (i use 6" deep roofs with flat top so they can be placed upside down on the ground during inspections and manipulation). You should have the basics to start with that lot although you will need to buy frames and foundation for the brood (dn4 or 14 x 12) and for the supers you will need sn frames and foundation. The brood box normally holds 11 frames plus a dummy board (i never understand why dn frames and foundation are sold in packs of 10). Try to buy your foundation through your association if they operate a bulk buying scheme in the winter months.
Also note it's difficult, even almost impossible to cope with swarm control if you don't have spare hives, frames and foundation. I'd suggest you have at least one, preferably two spare hives to hand before the swarm season starts.
 
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Thanks. I have contacted my local group to find out whats on offer.

Im starting with a blank canvas so its just trying to figure out what I need
 
First of all attend your local association and get involved. You will get lots of advice some helpful and some confusing. If they have an apiary you will be able to get some hands on experience with a beekeeper.
You'll need a bit of money to purchase your hive and equipment. You will be advised to attend a course run by the club to give you some knowledge on what's required to be a beekeeper.
Also they may be able to provide you with a colony reared locally or from the associations apiary.
Finally Patience is required.

Good luck
 
The hive choice is one that only you can choose. I personally went with Jumbo Langstroths as my mentor and one of his friends used them. If they were good for his 35+ years of beekeeping they were good enough for me. Had he used Nationals I'd have perhaps run with them.

Others in our group ran with Nationals.

Choose a type of hive that others in your local association use as if you need a frame of eggs or to borrow kit it'll be a lot easier.

Also, i found the winter sales at online retailers as well as association auctions tend to have more National stock than others.

Definitely get along to the association events, getting hands on experience is key and there should still be quite a few events coming up. I know our association does a day at the heather and also a treatment day next month.
 
I've tried my local BKA but they dont seem to be running many events throughout summer, only what seems like summer fairs?

Also I've just missed out on the last course of the year for an intro to beekeeping at the local college.

I'll keep my ears open for any up coming courses in the area but dont really want to be spending much as I need to buy kit etc so I want to bury some money away for when that day comes!
 
Yeah, you have pretty much missed the boat for this year. Most beekeepers will be busy tending their own bees around now. Have you looked at Lancaster beekeepers? Whilst it is a bit of a trek, I know Manchester start running courses in again in October. Another opportunity would be to find a local beekeeper and offer to help/tag along for the summer season, which would be invaluable experience, before leaping to buy bees
 
I've tried my local BKA but they dont seem to be running many events throughout summer, only what seems like summer fairs?

Also I've just missed out on the last course of the year for an intro to beekeeping at the local college.

I'll keep my ears open for any up coming courses in the area but dont really want to be spending much as I need to buy kit etc so I want to bury some money away for when that day comes!

Starting beekeeping can be expensive, but choosing not to do a training course can be an even more expensive mistake.

Some association-run courses may look as if they cost a lot, but break it up into a hourly rate that has to cover room hire, refreshments, other resources and maybe some petrol money for the trainers and it becomes more reasonable. Afterwards you'll get apiary training and will more than likely be offered a mentor.

Most associations run their courses during late winter and early spring, when the bees are quiet.
 

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