Invert Sugar

[oliver90owner]

All convince me that British beeks are richer than we here.

You got it wrong, Finman.

Should read: All convince me that British beeks were richer than we here.

That is for those that buy the expensive stuff, of course. Some of us tend to leave a little more real honey in the hives and that makes us poorer, too, but perhaps a bit more natural for the bees and no worries the following spring with high sucrose content in the honey.

There again, perhaps these inverted sugar feeds are OK, sold off as 'honey'. So maybe they are not losing quite as much as you think! 'Converting' ambrosia to honey and then selling it will certainly increase the profits (and the reported hive crop for the year).

RAB

 

[Winker]

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We have a system where tank truck delivers 67% syrup to beekeepers.
That truck drives on my street too because it bring winter food to my neighbour.

Biggest problem is that I shoul have a one cubic container somewhere waiting the transport. I have not room for that kind of store system. then that container hang there wte whole year.

My time is not so expencive that I have not time to buy sugar and mix it into water.

When I count my money and I mix sugar to wter, it is pure money.

When I make honey and sell it, perhaps my producing cost are 8 units when I get 10 units.

100 kg honey x 7 euros is about a sum what I pay for winter food.
But if my netto win is 20% i would sell 500 kg honey to get pure money what I get when I mix my sugar.

Finman, when you buy inverted syrup from a supplier in a big amount, it works out almost the same price as buying cane sugar and no mixing to be done!

When you buy inverted syrup from a bee supplier you pay 2X the price of sugar.

Your problem is that you don't have enough beekeepers who use it to share the cost of getting a big load in.

I got some bees this year from CrazyBull (Luke) who posts on here, he is a local bee farmer to me, he was/is paying less for his inverted syrup than I pay for cane sugar. The more hives you have the more séance it makes to buy a pre mixed syrup that costs less than the ingredients used to make it. I am told this comes down to our UK tax system. Sugar is taxed and imported bee food is not. Some one can correct me if im wrong.

 

[Finman]

Your problem is that you don't have enough beekeepers who use it to share the cost of getting a big load in.
ot. Some one can correct me if im wrong.

my problem just now is thatI SHOULD SHOOT all the time the ideas what one 5 hive owner produce so much that 10 wise cannot answer.

My our our problem IS NOT TO BUY BEE FOOD. It is the simplest job in the beekeeping. Read THE SIMPLEST JOB.

How do you know how much we have beekeepers. Do you know where they gettheir winter food.

Professionals know what to do. There is no need that 5 hive owner teach 1000 hives owner, from where to bye sugar and what sugar.

It has not been gone to your head that nothing inverted sugar is not needed. You are really stuff guy.

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I write to yur hobbiest because they read this forum. Look, where are 1000 hive owners. They need not to read these stories. Just now they are selling they honey yields.

 

[crazy_bull]

Finman, when you buy inverted syrup from a supplier in a big amount, it works out almost the same price as buying cane sugar and no mixing to be done!

When you buy inverted syrup from a bee supplier you pay 2X the price of sugar.

Your problem is that you don't have enough beekeepers who use it to share the cost of getting a big load in.

I got some bees this year from CrazyBull (Luke) who posts on here, he is a local bee farmer to me, he was/is paying less for his inverted syrup than I pay for cane sugar. The more hives you have the more séance it makes to buy a pre mixed syrup that costs less than the ingredients used to make it. I am told this comes down to our UK tax system. Sugar is taxed and imported bee food is not. Some one can correct me if im wrong.

Ours comes in from Germany via a German friend, orders over 1mt were getting carriage free, all supplied in handy 12.5kg tubs, each one just right for a hive. If i get bored and want another job to do later this year, i might order a big ammount (will check with Lions Den on price) and then re-sell it as our new house is near the A1(M) so plenty of people will be passing by.

C B

 

[Into the lions den]

I write to yur hobbiest because they read this forum. Look, where are 1000 hive owners. They need not to read these stories. Just now they are selling they honey yields.

1000 hiveowners in the UK? lol..........they are a very rare breed..........probably not more than 6 to 12 in the whole UK.......and for the most part forums are not their thing. Even I would not be here if some issues last spring had not drawn me in.

Yes, its primarily a hobbiest site. C'est la vie. You cannot march into a hobby beekeepers place and criticise them for being amateurs.

 

[Poly Hive]

Esp when you are an amateur yourself....



PH

 

[Winker]

my problem just now is thatI SHOULD SHOOT all the time the ideas what one 5 hive owner produce so much that 10 wise cannot answer.

My our our problem IS NOT TO BUY BEE FOOD. It is the simplest job in the beekeeping. Read THE SIMPLEST JOB.

How do you know how much we have beekeepers. Do you know where they gettheir winter food.

Professionals know what to do. There is no need that 5 hive owner teach 1000 hives owner, from where to bye sugar and what sugar.

It has not been gone to your head that nothing inverted sugar is not needed. You are really stuff guy.

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I write to yur hobbiest because they read this forum. Look, where are 1000 hive owners. They need not to read these stories. Just now they are selling they honey yields.

 

[mbc]

Top marks Winker, just chortled coffee onto my keyboard

 

[BBG]

Winker you're a Wnker!! - Just kidding!

Absolutely brilliant - made us roar!

 

[Finman]

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I remember only this joke about those guys.

One guy shouts in the dark room: no no Snowwhite!its my turn!

 

[MuswellMetro]

It worked really well for convenience and ease of use, not having to stand and mix litre upon litre of 2:1 syrup.
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Totaly agree, was converted by the discussion on here last year....and the wife likes it as well...not that i feed her it but because making 30 gallons of 2:1 takes a toll on the kitchen, floor and cooker...well it does if i make it

 

[FreeFall]

Even I would not be here if some issues last spring had not drawn me in.

The co-op (NZ bees) thread? I read the whole of that when I found this forum, it was getting really exciting towards the end and then... nothing. I seem to recall it ended with a report of F-16s flying over Greece and then it all went quiet. It was like being booted out of the cinema half way through a great film

What happened to the guy who went missing?

 

[Into the lions den]

What happened to the guy who went missing?

He was found safe and well at 2AM one morning by police as he tried to cross a main road moving from forest area to forest area. He was take to a nice safe place for a 'rest'.

Whilst there he befriended a female staff member. Mysteriously absconded (actually she had 'let him out for a walk'..but more on that later) and went missing for another four weeks.

Eventually he contacted his youngest sister, and after a while they agreed to meet, and she escorted him back home to Estonia, where he remains to this day. He has absconded once more since he went home but was found trying to cross the border to Russia I believe. Time for a long rest I'm afraid.

Back to his second vanishing here..........when he eventually broke cover he was only a mile from the hospital where he had been, but he was caught on cctv in town ..................the accidental escape had been far from it..........he had spent the four weeks shacked up with the female nurse. I think she was in receipt of a P45.

Poor guy was quite convinced, still is actually, that he was the object of a major manhunt, being pursued by, among other entities, the Russian security forces. Everyone he met was in on this and feeding information about him back to the hunters.

Sad. He is a really nice and sensitive guy and a pretty decent beekeeper.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Poor guy was quite convinced, still is actually, that he was the object of a major manhunt, being pursued by, among other entities, the Russian security forces. Everyone he met was in on this and feeding information about him back to the hunters.

Such a shame...your paragraph above reminds me of the film a Beautiful Mind,a portrayal of John Forbes Nash,who suffers with paranoid schizophrenia.

 

[Black Comb]

I'm bumping this thread to ask if anyone has found an attractive price for a pallet of Ambrosia or Apisuc?

 

[Finman]

Such a shame...your paragraph above reminds me of the film a Beautiful Mind,a portrayal of John Forbes Nash,who suffers with paranoid schizophrenia.

Scitsofrenic people exist about 1% in every nation.
It means that in UK you have about 600 000 sick people. Not so beautiful.
For exemple they are not able to work and earn own money.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Scitsofrenic people exist about 1% in every nation.
It means that in UK you have about 600 000 sick people. Not so beautiful.
For exemple they are not able to work and earn own money.

Finman, there is a "lifetime" prevalence of schizophrenia, of just under 1%.

The prevalence at any one time is 0.2%.

Still, a lot of people.

Dusty

 

[Finman]

Your problem is that you don't have enough beekeepers who use it to share the cost of getting a big load in.

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oh boy

Problem is that in UK you get 15 kg yield honey to sell and we get 50 kg.
Price of sugar is not our problem.

3 kg honey per hive and I bye the sugar for whole winter.

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Who said that life needs not to be equitable to all beeks.

And you double price polys and triple price frames... ain to invert sugar....

By the way, it is vain to invert sugar. Gut acids of bees split the sugar and even starch. They have enzymes for that.

 

[Finman]

Finman, there is a "lifetime" prevalence of schizophrenia, of just under 1%.

The prevalence at any one time is 0.2%.

Still, a lot of people.

Dusty

Thanks to heaven, you do not know much about that disease.

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/problems/schizophrenia/schizophrenia.aspx

The Royal College of Psychiatrists:

How common is schizophrenia?

It affects around 1 in every 100 people over the course of their life.

Information Centre of Finnish Medicine Doctors
http://www.terveyskirjasto.fi/terveyskirjasto/tk.koti?p_artikkeli=khp00031

Yleisyys (how common in in Finland)
Suomessa on noin 50 000 skitsofreniapotilasta ja koko Suomen väestöstä 0.5–1.5 % sairastaa skitsofreniaa, ja elinaikainen riski sairastua on noin 1 % =(get sick 1%)

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/problems/schizophrenia/schizophrenia.aspx

The Royal College of Psychiatrists:

How common is schizophrenia?

It affects around 1 in every 100 people over the course of their life.

Information Centre of Finnish Medicine Doctors
http://www.terveyskirjasto.fi/terveyskirjasto/tk.koti?p_artikkeli=khp00031

Yleisyys (how common in in Finland)
Suomessa on noin 50 000 skitsofreniapotilasta ja koko Suomen väestöstä 0.5–1.5 % sairastaa skitsofreniaa, ja elinaikainen riski sairastua on noin 1 % =(get sick 1%)

My point exactly. Thank you.

It makes a big difference: there are not 600,000 people in the UK walking around with schizophrenia at any one time. It's more like 120,000.

Dusty.