- Jul 23, 2009
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Brilliant i that website brings up all sorts of interesting opportunities! Thanks Presumably that does away with Kingspan etc? (Sorry really the last question!)In my opinion definitely yes but go one better and get the deep poly roofs that Abelo do. All my wooden hives are topped with those
Yes. I understand why they say it’s there but I’d never use it as such.gets rid of that unneeded inside rim I suppose
Option 1 I bet - it's a wonder there isn't a little secret compartment to keep matches in as wellI can’t quite make my mind up whether the mould was made from a wooden National roof without understanding or whether the supposed purpose was a reaction to comments about it.
As a newbie I did just that. Big mistake. The holes allow warm, moist air to rise up and condense inside the colder roof, which becomes mouldy and causes drips to fall back onto the CB. Since then I make sure all holes & gaps are covered during winter and I've had no wet or mouldy roofs since.Hi everyone
I am a newbie in West Wales. Due to COVID not possible to attend a course but have ab experienced keeper helping me Bit I don't want to keep ringing him up every week!
I've been looking at some information on insulation over winter, something that doesn't seem to be mentioned in the books I have. I gather it goes over the crown board Is it necessary to create holes in it to correspond with the holes in the board as presumably the ventilation is still important?
I'd agree with Dani, definitely worth getting a deep roof.So final question (maybe!) Is it worth splashing out on a 6 inch lid?
Just to explain - we inherited a hive with a few bees in which attracted a swarm, but lost it last winter due to leaky roof Also bought a TBH early in the year which leaked so I am pretty paranoid about moisture now and hence reverted to new National till I am more confident.
Would you mind sharing a photo how the insulation is placed in the roof. Is the insulation board lying on the eke/crownboard underneath? If so would the mice etc not chew through it? ThanksNo, you don't need the crown board holes for ventilation - best to close them off anyway whenever you're not using them for feeding. Majority consensus (you'll have learnt already that beekeepers never agree anything unanimously!), and common sense, is that bees are better overwintered without any top ventilation and with a nice slab of insulation on top of the crown board, under the roof.
Just like you at home, the bees don't want to lose all of that heat they've generated through gaping holes above them.
I keep a slap of 50mm insulation permanently glued into my hive roofs all year round. Going into winter most of my hives get a second slab of insulation in an eke between the crown board and roof so that bees have 100mm of insulation above them in total, but that's just me being overly protective .
So, I use a clear crownboard, without any holes in it. Then I have a simple eke, that's 50mm deep, the same as the Kingspan insulation that's cut to fit inside it. This sits directly on top of the crownboard.Would you mind sharing a photo how the insulation is placed in the roof. Is the insulation board lying on the eke/crownboard underneath? If so would the mice etc not chew through it? Thanks
Fantastic. Thanks for the quick response. May I ask is the clear crownboard polycarbonate? I assume that you use a different crownboard when feeding?So, I use a clear crownboard, without any holes in it. Then I have a simple eke, that's 50mm deep, the same as the Kingspan insulation that's cut to fit inside it. This sits directly on top of the crownboard.
Then of course the roof goes on top. I use 8" deep wooden roofs, and they have another slab of Kingspan permanently glued into them all year around. I don't have any problems with mice.
Hope the pictures help...
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Yes, they're not glass but polycarbonate crownboards (or quilts as they're often called). I usually get them from Maisemore. They do them with or without central feeder holes. I always get them without holes and just put on a traditional ply crown board with those feeder/porter escape holes on if I need to do any feeding. With my bees on double brood I don't often have to feed much but you can get them with a hole if you prefer and just block it off when you're not feeding.Fantastic. Thanks for the quick response.
Fantastic. Thanks for the quick response. May I ask is the clear crownboard polycarbonate? I assume that you use a different crownboard when feeding?