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Does anyone use these on their hives? I have just purchased one from Thornes and when I close up my hives in a week or so I intend to put it in. I overwinter my bees with one brood box and one super so will be putting the cover between the crown board and the roof. Thanks for your views.
 
How about a hot water cylinder jacket with bee hole cutout?
 
They are listed as £2 I think (+ VAT, these days?). A visit to the weekly Market stalls would be a far better idea. Probably twice as much for half the cost.

EPS will likely be a far better insulant for a given thickness.

I am wondering how you select the one lucky recipient colony.
 
for my two pence worth being a newbie, kingspan salvaged from skips etc bonded to roof then carpet samples (18x18) and free from carpet suppliers, depending where you live depends on how many layers you put on.
 
"I am wondering how you select the one lucky recipient colony"

I don't know if they will be lucky so I don't select on that basis, hence my post to ask advice as to their benefit. If the majority of replies state they are useful, then I'll get another one for the other hive.
 
Actually, since keeping bees, I have rued the fact so many times that I didn't learn more about woodcrafting when I was growing up!
 
for my two pence worth being a newbie, kingspan salvaged from skips etc bonded to roof then carpet samples (18x18) and free from carpet suppliers, depending where you live depends on how many layers you put on.

agree but choose polypropylene carpet...wool carpet can cause a wax moth problem

the u-value for those Th**nes insulation pad it not good, much better is "2 of kingspan ( or 4")....i have a solid 2" slab and another 2"underneath with removalble cut out for fondant
 
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Would anyone recommend putting insulation between the brood boxes and lifts in a WBC hive? And is it advisable to keep in the inspection board and block up the gap along the back of where the inspection board slides in, over winter? Don't want to suffocate them.
 
Would anyone recommend putting insulation between the brood boxes and lifts in a WBC hive? And is it advisable to keep in the inspection board and block up the gap along the back of where the inspection board slides in, over winter? Don't want to suffocate them.

No need IMO. Nationals don't require an insulation jacket and WBC already has protection via the lifts. Same applies to the inspection board.
 
No need IMO

Possibly, but it would not do any harm and might be the difference between success and failure.

You may not be aware that the boxes are a) smaller than Nationals and b) the boxes are of somewhat more lightweight construction than those of the National pattern. One can expect the lifts to ameliorate any direct wind effects on the boxes, but the insulation value of the outer lifts can be reduced considerably by small draughts.

Your opinion would deviate from mine in that the food required for the colony is partly proportional to the winter temperatures and, with that smaller box size, any reduction in stores required is a bonus towards getting a colony through the winter and added insulation for small colonies is not a bad thing to arrange.

It is so cost effective simply in stores used. I always draped old towels/hessian or similar over the inner boxes when I ran WBCs.

Some used to fill the lifts with straw chaff in days gone by - they knew the benefits of extra insulation back then. There are easier and more convenient ways to achieve the same result these days. I believe that every extra bee that gets through the winter helps the spring expansion. Perhaps some do not think that way.
 
agree but choose polypropylene carpet...wool carpet can cause a wax moth problem

the u-value for those Th**nes insulation pad it not good, much better is "2 of kingspan ( or 4")....i have a solid 2" slab and another 2"underneath with removalble cut out for fondant

if the rest of the hive is wood there is almost nothing to be gained from increasing beyond 1" or 25mm. As heat losses to the side and floor then predominate.
 
Good to know I'm not the only skip surfer here. Stopped on Friday night to pick up some insulation off cuts. The builders were most intrigued when I said it was to keep the bees warm over the winter. Is skip surfing another skill a beekeeper needs?
 
Wickes do small sheets of Kingspan 1200 X 450 X 50mm @ £5ish. Cuts into 3 insulation slabs for Nationals.

My national hives internally are 360 x 410mm. Have just finished making a batch just now.

Tape the edges with gaffer/duck tape to seal them.
 
1 roll of roof insulation - does loads of hives. I pack into black poly bags- doesn't go mouldy.

Not only skip surf- play the helpless weak female and the builders unload skip into my car!!
 
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Good to know I'm not the only skip surfer here. Stopped on Friday night to pick up some insulation off cuts. The builders were most intrigued when I said it was to keep the bees warm over the winter. Is skip surfing another skill a beekeeper needs?

Got an allotment which means I have skip dived for paving slabs recently ... And doors ( for a friend rather than the allotment)

I also don't mind asking for wood clippings either!


Freecycle got me some kingspan recently.
 

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