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My problem this year is quite the reverse of normal years. My main crop is spring honey with a high proportion of rape, so I usually extract in June and honey begins to crystallize within a month or so. Very little summer honey, which is mostly left for the bees.

But this year no spring honey at all, but a reasonable crop of summer honey. However, this honey is very runny (soaks straight through toast or runs straight over the sides. It's showing no signs at all of thickening up - wondering if there is any way of speeding things up? (There is no possibility of sugar syrup in the honey, nor of it being under ripe when extracted - capped and 17% on refractometer)
 

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Soft set it. It's the ideal time. I have some on the go in my unheated sunroom.
Buy a jar of cheap OSR from the supermarket. Set a few pounds with it. (my soft set is done in a week) then use what you've made to set the rest. Keep a few jars to use to set the next batchIMG_7953.jpeg
 

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Just to add , 14 degrees is the optimum temp for it to crystallize. Took ages to set in summer
 

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My latest batch of set honey which used a seed honey is taking ages to set. I had it in my utility room which is always 16-18deg. I have now moved it to my garage which is likely to be much colder to see if it starts to set.
 

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As Dani said, seed it with some decent supermarket soft set honey - the usual ratio is 10% seed, stirred in well and kept at 13-14°C, you should see the change in the honey overnight and the honey is usually ready to bottle within 48 hours to four days (depending on the honey) I like to leave it set until it's just at the stage of gloopiness it takes a while to pour.
 

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As Dani said, seed it with some decent supermarket soft set honey -
I think Dani said "cheap" supermarket OSR honey! I would rather not contaminate my honey with some of unknown origin.
When I started doing this I asked around at the teaching apiary and bought a couple of pound of seed honey from someone who had produced the seed from grinding crystallised OSR honey. ( Too much like hard work for me!)
Once you start making set you just hold back a few jars as seed for your next batch.
 

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I've started 100lbs of soft set this week, Ive seeded half a bucket with two jars of seed going to jar it today it has been kept in the parla at 14 c might of been warmer last night as both fires were going.
 

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I think Dani said "cheap" supermarket OSR honey! I would rather not contaminate my honey with some of unknown origin.
When I started doing this I asked around at the teaching apiary and bought a couple of pound of seed honey from someone who had produced the seed from grinding crystallised OSR honey. ( Too much like hard work for me!)
Once you start making set you just hold back a few jars as seed for your next batch.
Your own seed is best of course. I presumed moobee had no crystallised honey of her own. 340g of supermarket OSR in 30lb of honey isn’t going to contaminate significantly.
I find seed kept back starts getting grainier after three seasons so I usually start again every other year.
 

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Amazing year. Mine still hasn't set but it is sticky enough to be perfect. Never had that at my present location. Not complaining though!
 

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I don't have enough to sell this year, but I guess, if I did, would have to change the wording on my labels to account for the fact I have added the bought-in seed?
 

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I don't have enough to sell this year, but I guess, if I did, would have to change the wording on my labels to account for the fact I have added the bought-in seed?
No. Use only one 340g jar. Seed a kg or so then when that is ready use it to seed the rest of the bucket. Your honey contains 2.5% of the foreigner. Hardly worth declaring.
The following year you have some seed from this which is even more diluted.
 

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I think Dani said "cheap" supermarket OSR honey! I would rather not contaminate my honey with some of unknown origin.
When I started doing this I asked around at the teaching apiary and bought a couple of pound of seed honey from someone who had produced the seed from grinding crystallised OSR honey. ( Too much like hard work for me!)
Once you start making set you just hold back a few jars as seed for your next batch.
They ground osr what for it is a seed in itself.
 

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My problem this year is quite the reverse of normal years. My main crop is spring honey with a high proportion of rape, so I usually extract in June and honey begins to crystallize within a month or so. Very little summer honey, which is mostly left for the bees.

But this year no spring honey at all, but a reasonable crop of summer honey. However, this honey is very runny (soaks straight through toast or runs straight over the sides. It's showing no signs at all of thickening up - wondering if there is any way of speeding things up? (There is no possibility of sugar syrup in the honey, nor of it being under ripe when extracted - capped and 17% on refractometer)
If you haven’t bottled it yet you mix it with 10% soft set honey (some of last year’s) and make seeded soft set honey. My summer honey hardly ever crystallises. I put it down to a high level of blackberry nectar which has relatively high level of fructose.
 

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my spring honey is solid and frosting!
Frosting on the sides is a sign of good quality naturally set honey, it happens when the set honey contracts slightly and moves away from the glass, leaving the frosting effect
 

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