Having a mare with hive

[Timbeez]

Hi all, TimBeeZ here, I’m relatively new been at it for approx 3 years.. Im Presently having a mare with a hive, originated as a queenless swarm, which was super aggressive, I gave them a frame of Mixed eggs larva, they drew 5 queen cells, cell hatched and the remaining cells were torn down by hive, however still no sign of queen the closest I can see was this, however not convinced, what are your thoughts, adolescent green or just a different lady. Thinking of merging with a weaker hive that has a queen, or is queen waiting for remainder of brew to hatch before she starts laying, secondly the ladies have just filled brood with capped honey.

 

[Wilco]

Hi all, TimBeeZ here, I’m relatively new been at it for approx 3 years.. Im Presently having a mare with a hive, originated as a queenless swarm, which was super aggressive, I gave them a frame of Mixed eggs larva, they drew 5 queen cells, cell hatched and the remaining cells were torn down by hive, however still no sign of queen the closest I can see was this, however not convinced, what are your thoughts, adolescent green or just a different lady. Thinking of merging with a weaker hive that has a queen, or is queen waiting for remainder of brew to hatch before she starts laying, secondly the ladies have just filled brood with capped honey.

Looks like a drone to me.

Give another test frame.

 

[Timbeez]

Looks like a drone to me.

Give another test frame.

Thanks, i think I will just merge with weaker hive that has queen but leave queen excluder in place

 

[Erichalfbee]

Thanks, i think I will just merge with weaker hive that has queen but leave queen excluder in place

No I wouldn't, especially if the nightmare colony is stronger, till I was sure they were queen less. Add another test frame for three days

 

[Boston Bees]

Hi all, TimBeeZ here, I’m relatively new been at it for approx 3 years.. Im Presently having a mare with a hive, originated as a queenless swarm, which was super aggressive, I gave them a frame of Mixed eggs larva, they drew 5 queen cells, cell hatched and the remaining cells were torn down by hive, however still no sign of queen the closest I can see was this, however not convinced, what are your thoughts, adolescent green or just a different lady. Thinking of merging with a weaker hive that has a queen, or is queen waiting for remainder of brew to hatch before she starts laying, secondly the ladies have just filled brood with capped honey.

When did the swarm arrive?

How long ago did the queen emerge from this cell?

 

[Timbeez]

When did the swarm arrive?

How long ago did the queen emerge from this cell?

Hi Boston, swarm arrived on the 8th June, gave x2 frames of mixed brood, which settled them down, 24-25th hatched and remainder taken down by hive, what gets me is they’ve filled all the drawn cone in the brood box with capped honey, not the usual around the edges if she was about to start laying, I mean rammed full, I’ve removed and given them more drawn cone and they’ve starting filling and capping too. Just seems to be honey locked

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

swarm arrived on the 8th June, gave x2 frames of mixed brood, which settled them down

struggling to get my head around the rationale of that

what gets me is they’ve filled all the drawn cone in the brood box with capped honey

was that comb they'd drawn or you had given them for some reason?

I think they've been totally confused personally

 

[Timbeez]

No I wouldn't, especially if the nightmare colony is stronger, till I was sure they were queen less. Add another test frame for three days

Cheers Dan

No I wouldn't, especially if the nightmare colony is stronger, till I was sure they were queen less. Add another test frame for three days

Hi Dani, so give them the test frame and if they start drawing queen cells requeen with weaker hive ?

 

[Timbeez]

struggling to get my head around the rationale of that

was that comb they'd drawn or you had given them for some reason?

I think they've been totally confused personally

HiJ, They are drawing and filling, I gave them a drawn frame to try and give them room for laying space As the majority where full and capped, As I say only new to the game, what’s your advice or in future what should I do

 

[ericbeaumont]

new to the game

a different lady

I'm all for going it alone, Tim, because there is no one way to start beekeeping, but if you can't recognise a drone (and it's comb, not cone) I reckon it's time to sign up for a training course next spring. In the meantime, get hold of a Haynes Bee Manual, probably the best beginner book out there.

24-25th hatched and remainder taken down by hive

Give her three weeks from that date to mate and start laying; in the meantime, a test frame will indicate whether a queen is there, or gone AWOL on a mating flight.

Is the pollen glazed?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Cheers Dan

Hi Dani, so give them the test frame and if they start drawing queen cells requeen with weaker hive ?

Yes that’s what I would do. Put the weaker queenright hive on top and unite through newspaper
BUT it’s far too early to be thinking about that
Your new queen has been out only one week. I’d look again in a fortnight

 

[Timbeez]

Yes that’s what I would do. Put the weaker queenright hive on top and unite through newspaper
BUT it’s far too early to be thinking about that
Your new queen has been out only one week. I’d look again in a fortnight

Thanks Dan really helpful..

 

[Timbeez]

I'm all for going it alone, Tim, because there is no one way to start beekeeping, but if you can't recognise a drone (and it's comb, not cone) I reckon it's time to sign up for a training course next spring. In the meantime, get hold of a Haynes Bee Manual, probably the best beginner book out there.


Give her three weeks from that date to mate and start laying; in the meantime, a test frame will indicate whether a queen is there, or gone AWOL on a mating flight.

Is the pollen glazed?

Thanks, typo on comb and cone thanks for your help 3 weeks it is

 

[BeeAdmin]

Hello Tim, welcome. How's your beekeeping experience so far?