Cars hate me

[JamezF]

Our Octavia estate suffered its third EGR valve failure a couple of months back. I was thinking of writing it off because the repair is about 75% of the value of the car, but in the end we decided to get it sorted because if it lasts another three years or so, the children will have left uni and at that point we can probably buy a smaller car. In the meantime I can also use it as a bee van and not really have to care too much about it.

So we did that, and now the passenger door won't open. I don't think it is even unlocking. The MOT is due in a few weeks time and surprise surprise, having a door that won't open is an immediate MOT fail.

I'm now researching how to get the door card off (so I can find out what's going on inside) without being able to open the door.

James

 

[Jules59]

Most cars these days have small electric DC motors that operate the latches. The carbon brushes wear and the motors stop working.
On some cars the latches can be dismantled and replacement motors inserted. Or a replacment latch will be required - often found on ebay.
FWIW My Freelander 2 drivers door latch failed. I sourced both the motors (the latch has two motors) from AliExpress for very little money. They were made by a chinese company "AZ Giant", that appears to make every small automotive motor conceived. They sent a brochure too.
https://www.azgiant.com/index.html

Becuase of the need for car security getting to the latch is quite a bit of work - not difficult, just took hours

 

[JamezF]

The tricky bit is going to be getting the door card off with the door locked. There are a couple of screws holding it on at the bottom that may be obstructed by the sill. If I can't get to them then I might just have to trash the door card.

James

 

[Wilco]

Would a shim work to open it?

 

[Newbeeneil]

Would a shim work to open it?

We always used a coat hanger but that was 40 years ago. I’m sure security on cars is more sophisticated nowadays

 

[Wilco]

We always used a coat hanger but that was 40 years ago. I’m sure security on cars is more sophisticated nowadays

Creative Amazon description for the monetable version of your coat hangar...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/lesolar-Br...hvtargid=pla-2322479318055&psc=1&gad_source=1

 

[Andy]

Our Octavia estate suffered its third EGR valve failure a couple of months back. I was thinking of writing it off because the repair is about 75% of the value of the car, but in the end we decided to get it sorted because if it lasts another three years or so, the children will have left uni and at that point we can probably buy a smaller car. In the meantime I can also use it as a bee van and not really have to care too much about it.

So we did that, and now the passenger door won't open. I don't think it is even unlocking. The MOT is due in a few weeks time and surprise surprise, having a door that won't open is an immediate MOT fail.

I'm now researching how to get the door card off (so I can find out what's going on inside) without being able to open the door.

James

I had a skoda fabia that did the same after about 3 years as well. Annoyingly they put this part at the back of the engine. This needs an entire engine out to change it. Back in 2015 it was £500 for the part and the same again for 2 days labour. I sold it straight away.

 

[JamezF]

Would a shim work to open it?

Possibly, if I actually understood how

James

 

[E&MBees]

You could always follow the example set in the Italian Job, although the repair process might be a bit more challenging!

 

[Wilco]

Possibly, if I actually understood how

James

I believe that info can probably be found online... I think it involves using a narrow tool to manually open the catch for the door.

 

[fian]

A question:
Can the passenger door be opened with the key from the outside?
In scrapyards in Spain you can get the complete door for less than 100 euros.
Tip: look for the complete door and then decide what to break.

 

[rossbyjove]

Our Octavia estate suffered its third EGR valve failure a couple of months back. I was thinking of writing it off because the repair is about 75% of the value of the car, but in the end we decided to get it sorted because if it lasts another three years or so, the children will have left uni and at that point we can probably buy a smaller car. In the meantime I can also use it as a bee van and not really have to care too much about it.

So we did that, and now the passenger door won't open. I don't think it is even unlocking. The MOT is due in a few weeks time and surprise surprise, having a door that won't open is an immediate MOT fail.

I'm now researching how to get the door card off (so I can find out what's going on inside) without being able to open the door.

James

Skodas are usually pretty good.
We have a Roomster, having said that there is loose connection somewhere in the window wiring and sometimes it opens but sometimes takes a few goes to get it shut.
We don't open the windows now!

 

[Colinkemp]

Our Octavia estate suffered its third EGR valve failure a couple of months back. I was thinking of writing it off because the repair is about 75% of the value of the car, but in the end we decided to get it sorted because if it lasts another three years or so, the children will have left uni and at that point we can probably buy a smaller car. In the meantime I can also use it as a bee van and not really have to care too much about it.

So we did that, and now the passenger door won't open. I don't think it is even unlocking. The MOT is due in a few weeks time and surprise surprise, having a door that won't open is an immediate MOT fail.

I'm now researching how to get the door card off (so I can find out what's going on inside) without being able to open the door.

James

I have an Octavia, 54 plate, 259,000 miles. Used mainly as a bee car now. I had a similar problem years ago with a rear door. It was sorted by local garage without removing the rear door panel. I'm not sure how, but a lot of the central locking control is in the drivers door. Corrosion is a problem with the multipin connector in that area. Only problem with EGR was a leaky air pipe, easily fixed.
https://www.briskoda.net/ is a good forum for Skoda. Good luck.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

The tricky bit is going to be getting the door card off with the door locked. There are a couple of screws holding it on at the bottom that may be obstructed by the sill. If I can't get to them then I might just have to trash the door card.

James

It'll be held on with plastic button clips which you can get out with a carpet tack fork. Once the top is loose you can probably spring it far enough to use a mirror on a stick to see the linkage and find a way to unlatch it.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

buy a large traditional tin opener

 

[Jules59]

The tricky bit is going to be getting the door card off with the door locked. There are a couple of screws holding it on at the bottom that may be obstructed by the sill. If I can't get to them then I might just have to trash the door card.

James

Hmm
With the locked shut it can be a big problem because door screws screws are often hidden by the sill.
Hers a thought- Assuming your locks are electric then this might work maybe - take the car over a bumpy road surface ? The jolts might just shock a motor into working enough to unlock the door.
Not a problem for me as the roads here are terrible.

I presume you have a decent workshop manual showing how the door lock mechcanism works and see if you can work a solution. The door these days have internal guards preventing the old coat hanger method.

 

[Darryl]

Our Octavia estate suffered its third EGR valve failure a couple of months back. I was thinking of writing it off because the repair is about 75% of the value of the car, but in the end we decided to get it sorted because if it lasts another three years or so, the children will have left uni and at that point we can probably buy a smaller car. In the meantime I can also use it as a bee van and not really have to care too much about it.

So we did that, and now the passenger door won't open. I don't think it is even unlocking. The MOT is due in a few weeks time and surprise surprise, having a door that won't open is an immediate MOT fail.

I'm now researching how to get the door card off (so I can find out what's going on inside) without being able to open the door.

James

The are a few Skoda Octavia groups on f.book. I'll betthat you're not the first to have the problem and there will be someone there to give advice.

 

[fian]

https://www.manualpdf.es/skoda/octavia-2020/manual
It is the manual for the new Skoda Octavia pages 28-30 with the topic of the key.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Hmm
With the locked shut it can be a big problem because door screws screws are often hidden by the sill.
Hers a thought- Assuming your locks are electric then this might work maybe - take the car over a bumpy road surface ? The jolts might just shock a motor into working enough to unlock the door.
Not a problem for me as the roads here are terrible.

I presume you have a decent workshop manual showing how the door lock mechcanism works and see if you can work a solution. The door these days have internal guards preventing the old coat hanger method.

YouTube is handy for someone demonstrating how to do such jobs but as with everything some of the demonstrators are idiots. This is what's inside the driver's door and the passenger door will be similar but possibly slightly less stuff inside. You may have to get a replacement door card from a scrapyard and cut the original as you can't get to the edge screws.

 

[philipm]

Had same sort of problems when I had an Octavia Estate found the final problem to be the black box that connects to the ECU it is positioned under the vent at the back of the bonnet and can fill with water.Changed black box and ECU and reprogrammed myself.Saved myself a few pounds.