Best way to feed fondant.

Beekeeping & Apiculture Forum

Help Support Beekeeping & Apiculture Forum:

keithgrimes 

Field Bee
Joined
May 29, 2010
Messages
614
Reaction score
0
Location
Northumberland
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
3
I have had two pieces of advice, both from experienced beekeppers, on the best way to feed fondant :-
1. Cut in to thin strips and place a strip on top of each frame, below the crown board.
2. Leave the fondant in the plastic bag, cut slits in the bag and put the whole thing on top of the crown.
Number 2 makes more sense to me as it means that winter disturbance will be minimised. Your opinions are welcomed.
 

jimbeekeeper 

Queen Bee
Joined
Dec 14, 2008
Messages
2,454
Reaction score
1
Location
East Yorkshire
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
1
If fondant feeding is required (remember it is not a set program event), your option 2 fits.

I like to put an empty super on (above crown board) then drop in the fondant over one of the crown holes (other covered) just make a hole the size as the crown board, the bees will get in.

Then I add some insulation around and above the fondat packing out the super.
 

Silly Bee 

Drone Bee
Joined
Jul 13, 2010
Messages
1,018
Reaction score
1
Location
Lichfield
Hive Type
wbc
Number of Hives
3
I make my own fondant from granulated sugar.

I put it in a Carte Dor container (after eating the ice cream of course) cut a hole in the lid, turn it over so it lines up with a hole in the crown board.

You can see if it is empty wiyhout disturbance.
 

oliver90owner 

Queen Bee
***
Joined
Jul 15, 2009
Messages
16,034
Reaction score
444
Location
Lincolnshire
Hive Type
14x12
If I feed fondant it is similar to Silly Bee.

I use the deeper plastic 'take-away' cartons, fill with fondant, cover with cling film and lid and store. When needed, I remove the lid, slash the cling film and slide the inverted container over a feed hole. Slide another over the other hole (or slide along behind and then in place of the empty one). Insulation over the top. A full one holds about a kg.

Regards, RAB
 

Somerford 

Drone Bee
***
Joined
Aug 24, 2009
Messages
1,788
Reaction score
229
Location
Wiltshire, Somerset, S Glos & S Oxfordshire
Hive Type
national
The fondant I use comes in a box with plastic outer. I cut off a chunk, wrap in clingfilm, open a feed hole and just slap it on the top (unwrapped under neath) and then replace the roof. easy !

S
 

oliver90owner 

Queen Bee
***
Joined
Jul 15, 2009
Messages
16,034
Reaction score
444
Location
Lincolnshire
Hive Type
14x12
He appears to be advocating leaving on an eke all winter and 3 empty supers for some time into the winter perhaps? I think I might not quite call that the 'classic' way to feed and overwinter my bees in terms of modern, classic, vintage and veteran. But if it works, it is another choice.

At a little over 50p per kilo for sugar and double that (just guessing at current price) for fondant, it may not be too expensive for the odd colony, but for several, where we do not account for the labour costs, we may need deepish pockets.

Are there any multiple-hive beekeepers out there that feed this way?

Regards, RAB
 

Hivemaker. 

Queen Bee
Beekeeping Sponsor
Joined
Nov 8, 2008
Messages
14,291
Reaction score
15
Location
Exmoor.
Hive Type
national
Are there any multiple-hive beekeepers out there that feed this way?

Peter Edwards, plus quite a few more...including myself for several years,and fondant works out costing not much more than sugar when buying in large amounts, only reason i have gone back to mainly syrup is the thymol.
 

Tim1606 

House Bee
***
Beekeeping Sponsor
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
402
Reaction score
9
Location
Chertsey, Surrey, UK
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
300
How long can it be stored if i make up a large batch and what is the best way to store it?
 

Queens59 

Queen Bee
BeeKeeping Supporter
Joined
Jun 8, 2010
Messages
2,373
Reaction score
0
Location
Dartmoor edge, uk
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
5...2 wooden National, 2 poly Nat & 1 poly nuc...bursting at the seams
But, how will I get HM's Autumn thymol into them?

You can only give the autumn thymol if you feed syrup...
 

Poly Hive 

Queen Bee
Joined
Dec 4, 2008
Messages
13,825
Reaction score
155
Location
Scottish Borders
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
12 and 18 Nucs
I feed fondant.

I cut a hefty chunk off the slab, place it on the top bars iside an empty super, cover with plastic and let them get on iwth it.

Very straight forward.

Re cost. A major factor was omitted in a calc there. Sugar may indeed cost 50p a pound but it costs a bit more than that by the time, note time, and power to turn it into syrup.

I was planning on feeding some medicated syrup this back end but life is conspiring against me. I am now planning on feeding some meds in spring to my survivors.

PH
 

Eyeman 

Queen Bee
BeeKeeping Supporter
Joined
Mar 19, 2009
Messages
2,151
Reaction score
3
Location
North West UK
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
National and 14x12
I'd like to try this next year.

But, how will I get HM's Autumn thymol into them?
It's all in your post.
Put Autumn thymol on first then leave fondant for later. If you put the fondant on 'too early' then the bees will use it all up before winter sets in.
I only use the fondant as a reserve winter feed for the bees 'to be used when necessary'- others use it as an insurance.
 

PaleoPerson 

Field Bee
Joined
Jul 18, 2009
Messages
705
Reaction score
0
Location
Essex
Hive Type
14x12
If I feed fondant it is similar to Silly Bee.

I use the deeper plastic 'take-away' cartons, fill with fondant, cover with cling film and lid and store. When needed, I remove the lid, slash the cling film and slide the inverted container over a feed hole. Slide another over the other hole (or slide along behind and then in place of the empty one). Insulation over the top. A full one holds about a kg.

Regards, RAB
:iagree:
I do the same as RAB, but I do not bother with the cling film. Feeding this way means that you can check if they need any more without taking the crownboard off and chilling the bees (even if it is only for a few seconds) by creating a chimmney effect through the hive.
 

oliver90owner 

Queen Bee
***
Joined
Jul 15, 2009
Messages
16,034
Reaction score
444
Location
Lincolnshire
Hive Type
14x12
PP,

The advantage is it doesn't stick to the crownboard and without having a carton lid with a hole in it - we don't get that many of those cartons, so they can get recycled.

Regards, RAB
 

Cazza 

Queen Bee
Joined
Feb 28, 2010
Messages
2,528
Reaction score
22
Location
Suffolk/Norfolk border
Hive Type
national
Number of Hives
5 ish
I use Rab's method too - I thought I had invented this and felt sooo clever - now I realise I had reinvented the wheel - again!
Cazza
 

Latest posts

Top