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Honeybees And Sunspots
Two scientists share their theory as to what's causing colony collapse disorder.
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By Thomas E. Ferrari M.Sc., Ph.D. and Alissa B. Cobb B.Sc.
August 2010

Clearly, honeybees are vanishing. Colony collapse disorder (CCD) is not a new phenomenon, having been documented periodically around the world for centuries. Experts have searched — unsuccessfully — for a biotic cause explaining this global problem, and they have ruled out pesticides and cell phone towers. One abiotic basis that has not been explored involves an extraterrestrial source: sunspots.

Getting Lost

Before you decide we’re crazy, let us explain our logic. Some mysterious phenomenon causes entire, reasonably healthy colonies to abandon their hives. Most experts agree bees communicate amongst each other during a “waggle dance” that explains the coordinates of distant food sources. And, beekeepers all agree they do not know where colonies go when CCD strikes, so they must be lost. Therefore, we should study how bees might become “disoriented.”

Homing pigeons and magnetotactic bacteria have a magnetic compass that enables them to orient themselves. The basis for their ability to do so involves a mineral called magnetite, located in a sub cellular organelle called a magnetosome. It allows them to perceive Earth’s magnetic fields. Both organisms “get lost” when their ability to monitor those fields is interfered with. The most closely studied of the sun’s geomagnetic effects on an organism has been the degradation of a homing pigeon’s navigational abilities during a solar storm. Other migratory animals, notably dolphins and whales, become disoriented and they beach themselves. Thus, circumstantial evidence indicates that changes in earth’s magnetic field can affect a biological system that controls orientation. The sixth sense in such organisms is termed “magnetoception.”

Solar Storms

About every 11 years, solar storms cause disturbances to the earth’s magnetosphere. About every 50 years, solar storms are so intense they interfere with aircraft radio communications, cause GPS malfunctions, and destroy electrical transformers. In 1891, a CCD episode in Colorado occurred at the same time as sun spot activity commenced. In 1960, a solar superstorm caused widespread radio and electrical outages. At the same time, Texas and Louisiana experienced CCD. Coincidentally, when the current CCD disorder began about six to eight years ago, it too coincided with a peak in sun spot activity.

Since 1978, a few scientists have repeatedly suggested that the direction of the earth’s magnetic field could account for bee orientation. Nonetheless, most entomologists and beekeepers either missed or disregarded observations that bees can rely on something other than visual cues and the sun’s position for navigation. Bees also contain iron in the form of magnetite and evidence indicates when their “magnetic compass” is interfered with, their ability to respond to magnetic cues is disrupted. If true, their ability to spatially orient themselves will likely malfunction during a severe solar storm. Then, bees will become “confused” whether in the field or hive. We are confident they will then leave the hive to search for the location (via coordinates) that they already learned. Anyway, the current sunspot cycle (1998 to 2009) has just ended, and we bet CCD — like the bees — will disappear, too. That is, until another solar super storm happens.

http://www.growingproduce.com/americanfruitgrower/?storyid=4123
 

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. . Anyway, the current sunspot cycle (1998 to 2009) has just ended, and we bet CCD — like the bees — will disappear, too. That is, until another solar super storm happens.

http://www.growingproduce.com/americanfruitgrower/?storyid=4123
well, if its true, then the current measurements by livingston & penn suggest sunspots will disapear by 2015 so does that mean CCD disapears... http://solarcycle24com.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=855 i doubt it

in the last few years the number of days without sunspots between 2008 to 2009 was the longest period of sunspotless days since 1913, so CCD should not have occured over the 2008 -2009 period...in august 2009 the sun's magntic force was so weak the Solar wind did not reach escape velocity

As you see i dont beleive it causes CCD, disorientation maybe
 
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I am not keen on the point that house bees and the queen will leave the hive using information already learned.

If you were left with just house bees and the queen then it MAY be possible..


What about they get a virus because their immune system is up the spout due to the number of different chemicals taken back to the hive?

This messes with the bee’s nervous system altering the magnetic compass causing them to look for information already forgotten.
 

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does the Queen leave as well , in CCD hives ?
 

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"and they have ruled out pesticides"- erm actually, no they haven't, by any manner of means!
Research by the team under Dr Maryann Frazier at Penn State seem to think they may well have a lot to do with it! As this is about the only major study now going on that has any credibility as being totally independent, I'd sooner take their findings seriously than the babblings of a couple of people who own and run a commercial enterprise offering pollen for sale in California... (Ferrari and Cobb)
Their company suspiciously does not appear to have a website, but Googlings on the subject suggest that "pollen banks" often have a strong GM connection (which as we all know is inextricably linked with those nice people who make......... pesticides!)
No connection, or anything suspicious in them trying to whitewash "icides" then!
 

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then you dig a little deeper and read the pages on the "growing produce" site, and find neonicotinoids being widely recommended for "pest control", and there are a great many "pro GMO" articles too, and a swift site search on "Bayer" (seen as the good guys) brings up enough to keep you busy for months!......... no chance of any bias there then!:biggrinjester:
 

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and then you absent-mindedly look up the pollen company address in Bakersfield Ca. and use Google street view to discover the property looks like a bungalow, next door to "Pop's Drive-in"........:biggrinjester:
(you couldn't make it up!)
 

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Well worth making it up though Bros....as the entertainment value is priceless...lol.:laughing-smiley-014:smilielol5:
 

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You got 3 posts in a row Bros.
If this was noughts and crosses you would of won..
 

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You got 3 posts in a row Bros.
If this was noughts and crosses you would of won..
i thought it was three counts and you are out :D but it would be a pity to loose Bros


but like Bros, i think its pesticides and fungicides
 

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i think its pesticides, fungicides and herbicides in combination and that monoculture makes it much worse... how would you like only one type of food for a few weeks?
 

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Sunspots? I wonder why the problem is localised? Or do these sunspots (of which there have been very few recently) only affect the good old US of A?

Regards, RAB
 

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I think you are all being VERY GOOD - no comments on the fact that women always get lost...
 

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