allergen statement

[For want of a better word]

allergen statement

Packagers have asked for this.... some packaging regulation?

Unfilterd honey may contain nut tree pollen... Hazel.. chestnut... walnut.. etc

Like this forum should the packaging state... may contain nut pollen , nuts... or something similar..

Educated comments and thoughts please!

Cheers

 

[mintmoth]

If you walk down a country road in Spring/Summer you would probably inhale/ingest far more tree pollen than you'd get in a spoonful of honey. I wouldn't advise nut allergy sufferers to walk through an almond orchard, but if nut tree pollen was a serious risk I'm sure the issue would have been raised long since in nut growing regions.

 

[B+.]

Educated comments and thoughts please!

People who know they are allergic to a substance tend to know all the various ways they can come into contact with the allergen, and try to avoid it. It is those who don't know they are allergic who are most at risk. Unfortunately, no amount of labeling can help in such instances. I voted "No" for that reason.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Packagers have asked for this.... some packaging regulation?
Unfilterd honey may contain nut tree pollen... Hazel.. chestnut... walnut.. etc

Not heard anything about it, certainly not been asked by any of the honey packers to put labels on the barrels stating the honey may contain nuts, but if they do require it in future...no problem.

Did see a "may contain nuts" warning on a bag of
Brazil nuts once though.

 

[Finman]

There are tens of usual food which are allergic , but are not mentioned in packages,

some of them

cow milk
eggs
peanuts
fish
shellfish
tree nuts, such as cashews or walnuts
wheat
soy
carrot
chocolad

many fruits
Apple
Avocado
Banana
Cherry
Citrus fruits
Kiwifruit
Mango
Melon
Nectarine
Peach
Pear
Pineapple
Strawberry
Plum
Tomato

 

[B+.]

There are tens of usual food which are allergic , but are not mentioned in packages,

some of them

cow milk
eggs
peanuts
fish
shellfish
tree nuts, such as cashews or walnuts
wheat
soy
carrot
chocolad

many fruits
Apple
Avocado
Banana
Cherry
Citrus fruits
Kiwifruit
Mango
Melon
Nectarine
Peach
Pear
Pineapple
Strawberry
Plum
Tomato

Not completely true Finman. Gluten (Wheat), nuts, shellfish, etc are often highlighted whenever they are used as an ingredient in dishes.

 

[B+.]

Not heard anything about it, certainly not been asked by any of the honey packers to put labels on the barrels stating the honey may contain nuts, but if they do require it in future...no problem.

Did see a "may contain nuts" warning on a bag of
Brazil nuts once though.

i wondered if the "nuts" he was referring to were the people asking for it to be labelled ;-)

 

[Finman]

Not completely true Finman. Gluten (Wheat), nuts, shellfish, etc are often highlighted whenever they are used as an ingredient in dishes.

such is life. It is not perfect.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

allergen statement

Packagers have asked for this.... some packaging regulation?

Unfilterd honey may contain nut tree pollen... Hazel.. chestnut... walnut.. etc

Like this forum should the packaging state... may contain nut pollen , nuts... or something similar..

Educated comments and thoughts please!

Cheers

Not long done the Level 2 food safety course.
You only need a nut warning if you handle nuts in the same area as honey i know two bee farmers locally who sell honeyed nuts, one just has a separate kitchen for nut related foods to save on the labelling

 

[bpmurray]

I was curious so I searched for some reliable information. I found this document that explicitly states that pollen and nut allergies are completely different. So I think this is overkill and not at all warranted.

 

[For want of a better word]

I was curious so I searched for some reliable information. I found this document that explicitly states that pollen and nut allergies are completely different. So I think this is overkill and not at all warranted.

Thanks BP... just the answer I was looking for.!!!


However under the Precautionary Principle we will put

May contain Nuts/Pollen on our labels

I wonder what my Grandfather would have made of this... in the first part of the second half of the last century used to sell comb honey in good old grease-proof paper in a papier~mache container!!!..

 

[Jimmy]

Have you read the ECJ ruling about pollen as a natural constituent of honey and not an ingredient? I guess that it's legally useful but your solution may be more pragmatic.

From the executive summary of the report http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/etudes/join/2013/514066/IPOL-JOIN_ET(2013)514066_EN.pdf

On 6 September 2011, the European Court of Justice (CJEU) ruled in the Bablok case that
“pollen in honey is considered to be an ingredient within the meaning of Directive
2000/13/EC on the labelling, presentation, and advertising of foodstuffs”. This ruling
provided a departure from the past in that it formally established a labelling requirement
for pollen. In addition, it set additional supervision and authorisation requirements for
various stakeholders in the honey value chain.
One year later, on 21 September 2012, the European Commission proposed a clarification
of the Directive, suggesting that the status of pollen in honey be changed (back) to being
a natural constituent of honey. This proposal provides more flexibility as to the
information that needs to be provided on the label of honey and carries fewer supervision
and authorisation requirements. However, no impact assessment accompanied the
European Commission proposal.

 

[Beefriendly]

May contain Nuts/Pollen on our labels

No "may" about it. Honey most definitely does, and should, contain pollen.
Unless you are bulking out your sales with that fake stuff from foreign regions....

 

[Finman]

your sales with that fake stuff from foreign regions....

Then you may put a note: "may contain honey".

May contain nuts and bolts.


and the question was about allergy label

 

[Beefriendly]

Then you may put a note: "may contain honey".
.

Made me laugh....

 

[For want of a better word]

Originally Posted by Finman View Post
Then you may put a note: "may contain honey".

Made me laugh....

My reaction to Trading Standards...... but it has implications for us all.???

I can not see how honey can be produced without pollen in it.. unless filtered to an extent that the pollen is removed.... Supermarket honey???

Allergen advice seems to be one of the bits of info that food producers and packers have to by law and must put on labeling.... but all the facts are very confusing.

I am not going to go near the new fad for beeswax and cotton... wax wrapps... seems that there are a lot of "Fakes" already appearing on the market!!!

 

[Dodge]

Still get concerned when I have packet of Peanuts. Always says a warning about containing nuts. Better not contain Nuts as I want to consume Legumes and not nuts. Ha ha lol. Not meant to start a debate.