AFB Vaccine

[Erichalfbee]

https://www.popsci.com/science/honeybee-vaccine-disease/

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

The usual ill informed guff about honeybees in decline etc. etc. and just a 'proof of concept', nothing more - it looks like they're a long way away from proving it's a possibility let alone a probability.
And they are talking of deliberately infecting 'thousands' of colonies to test their theory.
It seems that what Professor Sagili is looking for is widescale funding from the beekeeping industry.
I won't wait until my tea goes cold expecting any kind of solution to a non problem to come along soon

 

[Anduril]

I've watched this:

 

[Ian123]

The usual ill informed guff about honeybees in decline etc. etc. and just a 'proof of concept', nothing more - it looks like they're a long way away from proving it's a possibility let alone a probability.
And they are talking of deliberately infecting 'thousands' of colonies to test their theory.
It seems that what Professor Sagili is looking for is widescale funding from the beekeeping industry.
I won't wait until my tea goes cold expecting any kind of solution to a non problem to come along soon

AFB is a bigger problem for US beeks as I’m sure your aware and indeed probably much of the issue is their own making! However I wonder if in the future the same principles could be used regards DWV, interesting even if some time off. Maybe a while before we see the advertisement’s for VSH vaccinated local Welsh/Blenheim/Kent/ special eco type(DNA PENDING)Bibba approved feral survivors and BBKA certified.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

AFB is a bigger problem for US beeks as I’m sure your aware and indeed probably much of the issue is their own making! However I wonder if in the future the same principles could be used regards DWV, interesting even if some time off. Maybe a while before we see the advertisement’s for VSH vaccinated local Welsh/Blenheim/Kent/ special eco type(DNA PENDING)Bibba approved feral survivors and BBKA certified.

I won't be holding my breath for that one

 

[Erichalfbee]

I’m sure I read somewhere that there is a vaccine for DWV but delivery is the major obstacle

 

[Erichalfbee]

Yes here

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7232236/

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I’m sure I read somewhere that there is a vaccine for DWV but delivery is the major obstacle

it's getting the buggers to form an orderly queue is the issue

 

[user 20297]

it's getting the buggers to form an orderly queue is the issue

Getting an appointment is an even bigger one.

 

[JamezF]

And which leg are you supposed to inject it into?

James

 

[Amari]

https://www.popsci.com/science/honeybee-vaccine-disease/

"In the current study two queen honeybees were vaccinated with either the vaccine or placebo. The two hives were then brought into the lab............"

Just one queen given the vaccine! The two hives then housed in the lab! Underwhelming scientific method - statistical analysis impossible. I'm surprised it got published. Why didn't they inject hundreds?

 

[Ian123]

"In the current study two queen honeybees were vaccinated with either the vaccine or placebo. The two hives were then brought into the lab............"

Just one queen given the vaccine! The two hives then housed in the lab! Underwhelming scientific method - statistical analysis impossible. I'm surprised it got published. Why didn't they inject hundreds?

I’m pretty sure they said it was proof of concept only at this time?

 

[SWHives]

It looks like the vaccine for AFB was approved in the US and will be available soon:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64180181

 

[Wilco]

As per many vaccines, strictly speaking it prevents death/disease not infection.

If it reduces clinical signs by virtue of reducing the pathogen load then the rate of transmission may reduce as a consequence. Might also make detection of disease harder though so may not be taken up over here if so.

 

[user 819]

Problem with having a vaccine is that some beeks may not be so alert into looking for the signs and treat it as a silver bullet.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Another problem is that every colony should vaccinated or sick but not dying bees ( thanks @Wilco ) will just pass the disease onto unprotected colonies.

 

[Michael Palmer]

Here in Vermont, our incidence of AFB is very low. I quit using TM prophylactically many decades ago...and held my breath. No outbreak. With such a low incidence, why would I use such a product. Now, if they could come up with a vaccine to control viruses, I would be all ears. I'm hoping the RNAi program comes up with something.

 

[JamezF]

It'll take weeks to vaccinate a single colony though! And how do you tell which ones you've done and which still need doing? Look to see if they're wandering around rubbing one leg?



James

 

[Ian123]

It'll take weeks to vaccinate a single colony though! And how do you tell which ones you've done and which still need doing? Look to see if they're wandering around rubbing one leg?



James

Just wait for the anti bee vac brigade

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Just wait for the anti bee vac brigade

I'm sure they'll be along shortly