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Thanks very much. Will see if I can propagate it by seed, Edit: looks like division is best. Will have a word with my friendly park keeper...

Calling keen horticulturalists This plant is flowering my local park. It is covered in honey bees at the moment. I am thinking of planting it myself, any ideas what it is? Thanks

Used it for the first time this year on my Nationals. Today saw the bees hauling it out of the hive and onto the ground. Hasn't happened before, always seen it in situ when replacing it each week. Anyone else had this problem?

I agree nobody can form an argument or follow any logic without getting defensive. Peace be upon you. EDIT: ITlD just to confirm I first said ' With respect' when replying to you. This was not a platitude. The argument appears to have run its course.

Hmmm, could be I guess, a definition of economic is called for then. Like I said I am willing to be proved wrong. I mean this.

I find it funny that when someone can't form an argument they resort to calling someone a troll. I am asking people to think about their justification that's all. You have mentioned that it stops swarms spraying everywhere. Others have said this is good because it means more swarms to collect...

Not technically, it depends on your justification and primary reason for keeping the bees. I keep a dog. He serves no economic benefit at all. However if he was able to hunt me lots of rabbits I could justify economically the feed that I give him. I keep him because he enriches my life. It...

Isn't ecology the study of living things in their natural state in their natural environment? Hmmmm! Impressed though I am with your qualifications, you appear to be unable to form an argument in this regard. You have, and neither has anyone else, been able to state a reason apart from an...

Economics? Not everything in life is about economics. Did you study at the LSE?

Sorry guys nice diversion tactics but you have been unable to give an argument that has not been economic in nature. Swarms lost = economic Bees in chimneys = economic Gives me a extra few days between inspections = economic Reduces travelling to out apiary = economic Just admit it. There's...

Like I said, do a little thinking. What are you trying to affect and why?

No, I am exploring people's justification to clip. As it is perfectly legal it is up to the beekeeper. However, I do wish that people would be honest and admit to themselves, after a little thought, that the sole reason can only be economic.

Have you witnessed any sign of distress from a clipped queen who can no longer fly and wishes to join her daughters in the colony's natural process which is the ability to swarm? With respect I would have thought that someone with your obvious knowledge and experience would have thought a...

Ha ha, know what you mean. Will block it up next time.

'Tis a shame my friend. Those bees don't fit into our our more complex modern lives. Best of luck with your decision.

:rofl::rofl: :smash::smash:

Am I responsible for the actions of the council? This is but one of a number of scenarios and is formed from rather poor logic I'm afraid. Glad you don't clip though.not worthy Why is that?

I don't ring the pigs, I don't debeak the turkeys, I don't clip... well you get it. It does sadden me that people do. It's up to them of course - legally but I do question the ethics of it and I can't help but lose a little respect for those that do. Interesting that people have said that...

Right on the money. Cognitive dissonance litters this type of thinking. It's laughable to see environmental supermarket shoppers shunning a plastic bag and driving off in a car that does less than 30 mpg.

:iagree: Can the moderators delete this post or contact details. If it were me I would not be too happy.