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Finally managed to put a brood box onto of the super, however the hive is in worst shape than I thought. I had to strap the BB to the hive because it's all leaning over towards the entrance, luckily the original frames are sites cold method so across the frame is level. Its all sealed nicely so...

i can see this is going to be fun, but what is the risk of completely ruining the colony if it all goes pear shaped, if i manage to lose the queen will they produce another at this time of year? the dowel idea is a good un, taken onboard thanks, as is the double layer clothing, lol.

thanks for all your help, i'm going to try to sit a brood box on top if i can, check that the queen excluder has already been removed or is perished & not working. i have seen comb "tied" to new frames as a way of holding it in a new hive where the comb is frameless, could this be an option if...

hi MuswellMetro, thanks for your reply, roughly how long would it take for the queen to work her way up, if there is a queen excluder i should imagine its perished by now, but cant lift the super without it falling to peices. i'm really not sure if the old hive would support the weight of a box...

any advice greatfully recieved. i have been offered a colony of bees that are resident in an old wbc hive, however the hive is so rotten that any disturbance & i think it will just crumble into a pile. i managed to lift the roof in the autumn & put a tray or apigaurd inside but it was quite a...