No they were not seconds. Seconds of anything they sell are only available at sale time. Naively I always thought Thornes seconds were system rejects. However I was told on a tour of the premises that they are specifically made as seconds.
Bought a couple of Rose Hive boxes to make up. I'm afraid they are not made to the same standard as their other goods. Had a bit of reworking to do. Think I will make my own from scratch from now on. Ok Ok at £13+ what did I expect