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What's the reasoning for doing it this way? I'm curious not having a go, I thought it would be easier for the bee keeper and the bees just using the excluder than them having to move stores? I also thought bees are reluctant to use cells for brood that where previously used for stores (not brood...

Certainly, could be a reason why some people don't use queen excluders to. Have you tried putting all the suppers and brood boxs on with no queen excluder they could chimney right through that would be even closer to their natural behaviour?

I spose just about all hive types are more for bee keepers than bees, id rather utilise the one brood box than use two. Last year I used one brood box then another on top as a super, I spose we both achieved the same outcome bees had enough space and loads of spare store frames.

Oh sorry I thought you meant commercial brood box. I've just used supers for extra brood space. I dont think I'll bother not using QE as one of the reasons I don't like more than one brood box is fear of loosing a queen 😬.

That's interesting, I think given the chance woth no queen excluder all queens would chimney the brood up the middle frames, id guess the more prolific would take up more frames in the same sized hive as a none prolific queen given the same space with no excluders? I wonder if you didn't have...

Thanks that was kind of my point that some single broods can do well its not necessarily more brood more honey. Do you have full commercial hives or do you use national supers? I think the bloke I was talking about with no QEs doesn't use them at all, he let's the queen lay where they want (I...

Your bees sound like they are doing great! Just inspected my colony they seem to be building up quickly now.

I see your point, the single brood people I watched are or where commercial bees keepers. I only have 3 hives and I do go through each frame on Weekley inspections, I can understand why you don't it sounds like your more commercial than hobby? For me I enjoy inspecting (I do now I have lovley...

Oh I agree, I had my bees before I met this guy I found him as before I got any bees I was keen on black bees, his group is listed on the bibba site as the closest. He had kindly offered his help and experience on several occasions with nothing in it for him. Sorry I might not have explained...

I would if I knew who we where talking about lol. Oh I agree, I invested natinoal gear didn't really plan on changing, but like alot of things you've got to go with the flow and requirements change.

Yea hence the guessing, if I was there and 100% sure I'd have said so, guessing you would to. I think that's the problem what you see as a good queen is obviously not the traits he sees as a good queen, he probably culled instead of passing on for that reason you mentioned, he probably dosnt...

It would be great to hear the answer from the association in question, but I'd guess keeping the prolific queen would certainly not produce a none prolific colony? I'd also guess that at the highest necta flow in their area the queen's never need more than 1 natinoal brood box, otherwise why...

Lol give over pal, you've said they where wrong for culling a prolific queen imfact you said idiotic. Then you say you keep some colonies on single brood?! If its so mediocre, so idiotic to keep none prolific bees that don't need more than a single national brood why on earth do you keep some...

I'm only in my second season of having bees. I overwintered one of my colonies on brood and a half and one on single brood because that's the space I thought they needed. My 3rd colony is currently on single brood but as I said the very experienced bee keeper I got them from keeps them on brood...

Oh yes but your average extractor won't fit 14x12 frames? Hahaha hubby in the bad books, sorry I meant 14x12 frames seem awkward to handle more than difficult to move, ie sagging. I dont think I'd fancy moving many 14x12 supers 😬.

I completely agree with that as with alot of things in life sometimes a hobby can mean perfection and alot of dedication. I'd have to look but I'm sure I'd read some of the single brood colonies are reaching above 30lb and some 100lb, like you say the forage is a big factor and I'm a big...

It always amazes me how long some of the hives have survived! Haha I done envey trying to lift a box with your fingertips 😬. I seen someone had added bars to the side of some flat sided nationals I'm guessing they must be old ones like yours, they certainly looked very old. I handled a Smith...

I thought the spinners where not as easy to obtain and more expensive, I read the 14x12 have a habbit of blowing out much more than even a standard national brood comb. Oh without a doubt, I used my spare brood boxs as supers to draw and produce food combs. I thought about just having brood...

I was under the impression that you never use single brood. My understanding of the single brood was that they can produce more than enough bees to fill supers and the less prolific queens regulate their laying to suit the inviorment/flow better buy reducing and expanding when necessary. All...

Lol yes I agree it's getting boring, but I genuinely want to know why he thinks it's mediocre. From what I've seen single natinaol brood colonies can produce large crops of honey so I can't understand why the bloke thinks it's mediocre.