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Compared to... I would say only a couple of years ago, the Forum has improved A LOT!

Yes, I think it may have a part to play, but this raises more questions than answers: IF this in some way explains the lack of observed mating (from DNA analysis) between Amm queens and non-Amm drones, then why is there apparently free mating between queens and drones of other differing subspecies?

Where Italy and Slovenia meet the ligustica and carnica subspecies naturally and freely hybridise, they have a section allocated for them in beebreed.eu I've also seen DNA analysis that showed different subspecies cross breed with each other freely and randomly (except for A m mellifera with...

From memory based on what I have retained from their mention in books and some research... A straw skep I think 1" - 1.5" thick gives more insulation than the average wooden beehive ALSO it's shape gives it an advantage, if I recall Derek Mitchell's (?) research found the skep was the second...

I've watched this lecture before and similar ones, and recognize the research papers that are being paraphrased BUT I must have missed this comment; "...you can have hundreds of drones following the Queen and if you pull it (the queen dummy) down they (the drones) do not follow..." I had...

Why am I breeding them then?

Ahh, now I'm seeing the importance of having a countable amount of Amm drones and non-Amm drones... assuming the results of this Isolated Mating experiment mimicked those of Polish 2013 and Irish 2017 studies (and the Danish observed results), then one could repeat the experiment the following...

There are so many papers I couldn't list them all, a short time spent will find them but I don't think your opinion will be changed, no matter what I say or Post. HOWEVER you CAN change my mind, and get the bees onto the front page of all major beekeeping newsletters throughout Europe (not to...

err, I was replying to the good points mbc was making... and it's not 1, it's 2 (and counting), not mentioning the anecdotal evidence supplied by the Amm beekeepers from Isle of Læsø.

Hi you mean different Apis mellifera types (subspecies) don't you, say 50% A m carnica and 50% A m mellifera? That could prove to be very difficult, you would have to make sure the carnica which build up earlier (according to Ruttner) do not have more Drones in their hives, also there's always...

Do you have research that I'm not aware about this? The research that I've read to date, and what we have been discussing, is only AMM virgins mating with only AMM drones, not virgins generally mating within their own subspecies, in fact the existence of the Buckfast bee proves that (probably)...

There fixed for you.

(emphasis added by me for clarity) Quote from the Study, "The progeny of AMM queens was fathered almost exclusively by AMM drones" There are ways how some carnica DNA ends up in Queen, in minute quantities, but I'm not going to discuss the details of queen mating with a lady on an open forum...

You need to read the Papers that you are citing... I don't come from Ireland but it appears even I know your geography better than you! If you get 1024 people to flip a coin ten times one of them will guess it correctly each time, it's called luck. BUT as I can't convince you based on the...

I think I understand you now, your objection to the importation of bees into Ireland isn't that they will hybridize, evidence is increasingly saying they will not, but your concern of the importation of new diseases and pests, fair enough argument. But I think you are the only person that I know...

I wasn't double counting: the study (as I mentioned at the end of my Post) lasted only into the fourth year as all the bees died. Meaning that the full effects of Hive failure due to old comb, etc. and Colony failure due to failed supersedure mating, etc. were not fully taken into consideration...

I don't believe I'm doing this; 100 goes into the winter, 45 come out (the research showed a 55% death rate) All 45 swarm, (we will ASSUME that all the virgins left behind successfully mate, yeah right, and all the swarms find a hive large enough to store enough stores to survive the winter...

I'm not sure how to respond to that, except mathematics isn't your thing is it?

How do you know that the outside apiary bee colonies are "wild"? The research from Ireland (you have given a link to a lecture which summarizes the Research) shows that their annual average death rate is close to 55% (you need to get a calculator and number crunch the Supplementary Stats.)...

I don't understand why you say this? Here is a direct quote from the research paper that you linked to, "The progeny of AMM queens was fathered almost exclusively by AMM drones", this means that the "conservation of Amm is" a downhill stroll, not "an uphill struggle"; those beeks that want to...