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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    The queens may have died in autumn. One of the reasons for a leave-alone strategy is to try to locate strains that are good at superceding. With just a few hives you could monitor and take action of some sort, but with 60 or 70 and a bunch of other stuff to get down, live and let die sees, on...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Yes, you may be right. I don't know why they are no more. I'm just guessing they'd have had a better chance in a nice dry home. I've never denied losing colonies to varroa. What I have spoken of is not losing colonies to anything.
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I can only disagree. We've had some very wet weather and a cold snap recently. I've lost several colonies to dampness. I'm not so precious about my bees that I think that's indefensible. If it were not for me none of those colonies would have existed at all. Its the practical outcome of...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    That is not my opinion. My entire objective is to help beekeepers understand the effect of their actions so that they can make properly informed decisions. Its not clear what you are trying to say. But is worth saying: scientific papers are not 'essays', they are careful formal reports of...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Mollycoddling bees makes for a weakened population. Period. They don't need pretty houses. To clarify: I try to keep the hives mostly dry. And I confess that I've started using celotext on top of nucs to help to get them up to weight before winter. What I'm doing is trying to give them...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    That is kind of blinding us with unnecessary complexity. Village idiots have been selecting for strength and vitality for thousands of years. We don't need to make this hard. K.I.S.S. But yes, there is great complexity underlying the actualities. The trick - of science and good analysis -...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    you need to get that into clearer English. There is too much ambiguity of meaning to allow a response.
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Look at what I've just written about _pressure_; its presence and its removal. Don't think about commerce or spiritual activity until you are clear on the mechanisms. Otherwise you are letting the tail wag the dog, looking for what you want to find. Objectivity is the name of the game in...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I agree; but its still an unusual way to put things. It may be a useful way to put thing however. Lets remind ourselves: this only occurs in free-living populations. Treated bees are denied the select Interesting I'd like to see some citations I tend, from personal experience, to agree...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I'm not sure what you consider proven, but we can be sure that if polyhives aid colonies significantly, then they will a priori be detrimental to the nearby free living population.
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    It points to me of adapted local bees suffering under the input of high-fecundity mites from nearby hive, being relieved of that circumstance, and perhaps being sided by the input of less voracious mites. Yes, that's a change of environment, but to account for things in that way is misleading...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Pardon me: if the mite count reduces rapidly? On what timescale? What bees - are you speaking of a population that may be adapting? Hives that may be amongst a thriving local population? Has the beekeeper treated them? You have to make clear and unambiguous statements, propose clear...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Oh give it a rest. You don't have to take my word for it, but for heavens sake read some of the literature. Perhaps all the scientists and all the people claiming to keep untreated bees are all in some grand conspiracy.
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I know. I'm also zealous about having brakes in my car, knowing that 2+2=4; and that black is black and white is white. I'm a real unadulterated zealot when it comes to realities.
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I think it would be more accurate to say varroa has selected beekeeper actions in apiaries. I find it strange to say 'varroa has selected bee populations', but I suppose it works. I think its clearer to say bee populations have adapted under pressure from varroa; but we can go further and say...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    FWIW: I spend a long time arguing with US beekeepers about natural selection and no-treatment beekeeping. I often asked 'Do you understand what I mean by natural selection' and they always replied, yes of course. It eventually became clear that in almost all cases they had _heard_ about...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Of course it does. Everything bee varies from location to location; and having the forage and the nesting sites to support a local feral population is a pre-requisite. The science is clear; the (genetic) husbandry is straightforward. I don't mean to be rude but if you are insufficiently...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    I think, excuse me, this is religious thinking. No one can prove that it isn't because there are some miniature garden gnomes buried nearby, or any of an infinite number of other things. But when incredibly deeply rooted theory theory matches a wide range of evidence, and there are no...
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    Wild/Feral Survivor-Thrivers: Naturally Selected Resistant Bees.

    Its like that thing: If there are 6 oranges in the fruit bowl, and Sammy eats 2, how many are left in the fruitbowl? [1] We can work out the answer (4) without having Sammy or the fruitbowl in the room. If we breed golden retrievers, and a great dane dog comes in and covers all the ladies...
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